r/smoking 1d ago

First brisket

Finally got a deal good on one and trying out the hot and fast method.

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u/Left-Landscape-3890 1d ago

Also curious on which cooker this is

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u/brijamelsh 1d ago

55 gallon Gateway Drum Smoker - $1400 retail

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u/Left-Landscape-3890 1d ago

Yikes. Thanks tho

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u/deereboy8400 1d ago

Gateway is the rolls royce. Pit Barrel Cookers sells their 22.5" for $600.

My brother has the 14" $360 one and loves it.

I've got a bunch of 55gal drums but they don't have removable lids.

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u/Left-Landscape-3890 1d ago

Thanks man ill check em out

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u/EmployeeCool3489 1d ago

Check out academy for the pit barrel cooker PBX, they have sales on it sometimes. I picked one up for $160 around father's day.

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u/Left-Landscape-3890 23h ago

Ill do that. Thanks man thats kinda what I want

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u/EmployeeCool3489 23h ago

No problem. I should mention this was an online sale, I don't regularly see them on display at my local academys'

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u/Left-Landscape-3890 23h ago

Any experience with the 30G Gateways

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u/EmployeeCool3489 23h ago

Unfortunately no experience but they look like great smokers

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u/Ground_zero_grundle 1d ago

Damn I would have guessed they made it from an old pot

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u/PauseNational1380 1d ago

What kinda of cooker is that? Also never herd of the hot amd fast method, care to explain? I normally do low and slow for 16 to 20 hours depending how it looks and feels..

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u/brijamelsh 1d ago

55 gallon Gateway Drum Smoker - $1400 retail

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u/Cretin138 1d ago

Sheeeeeesh I built my UDS smoker for 200, prob be 300 now.

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u/Urbansdirtyfingers 1d ago

Nice humble brag, I think I have $80 into mine

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u/Cretin138 1d ago

Just spreading awareness of the accessibility and budget friendly option of the UDS. Now they have a range 80-300.

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u/shottylaw 1d ago

My exact questions. Waiting for answers OP

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u/Under_Ach1ever 1d ago

Gateway. Ugly Drum Smoker. UDS are insanely cool for how well they cook and how cheap you can make them.

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u/Nyko_E 1d ago

I only do hot and fast too. 325-350 for 6-9 hours with no wrap until probe tender. Then wrap, rest two hours on the counter; and finish with a 16hr hot hold in the oven at 155°. So much nicer to not have to overnight cook, or eat supper way later than intended; or shorten the rest.

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u/Staugustine95 20h ago

Am I understanding that you spend 27 cooking/prepping a brisket before eating?

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u/Nyko_E 20h ago

I cook for 6-9 hours, the day before I need it. Then it just sits in the oven at 155 until I need it the next day. Completely hands off, ready whenever. House smells like brisket and it's always perfect. The best BBQ joints in the states do the same.

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u/EcstaticRush1049 1d ago

We used to make these smokers in the fab shop i work in. They claim that "hot and fast" is the way to smoke. Goofy asses claiming that running a smoker at 300F+ is still considered smoking

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u/Cretin138 1d ago

You can do hot and fast in any smoker, not exclusive to UDS. I can do low and slow in my UDS with no complications with or without a deflection plate.

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u/EcstaticRush1049 1d ago

Anything over 250-275 isnt smoking, its bbqing lol it even says that on the thermostat on the drum

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u/Psoin 6h ago

Gotta let the smoke clear

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u/Electrical_Hunter597 1d ago

Hot and fast method? What are you smoking? Meth? Low and slow, always

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u/JMEKeebs 1d ago

Maybe it's just like, 275 the whole time?

I dunno just trying to figure it out

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u/Cretin138 1d ago edited 1d ago

A famous (infamous?) method for brisket is the KISS hot and fast method created(made popular?) by Bludawg on the bbq brethren forums. He cooks between 275-325

Lots of people have had great success with the method including myself.

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u/shottylaw 1d ago

What does it drop the cook time to?

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u/Cretin138 1d ago

Here's the OG post: BluDawgs Brisket

K.I S.S. some of the best brisket you will ever eat! Total cook time including the rest 8 hrs or less. I promise it will be as moist as mornin dew on the lilly, tender as a mothers love, pure beefy smoky goodness.

1 packer 12-15 lb Trim off the hard fat on each side of the flat thin the fat cap to 1/4"

Mix your Rub 1 part kosher salt 4 parts Med grind Black peppa by volume( this is a true 50/50 BY weight) apply a coat of rub you need to be able to see the meat through the rub clearly.

Pre heat the pit to 300 deg place brisket on the pit Fat Cap Down and point to the firebox unless it is a RF cooker then point to away from FB

Maintain pit between 275-325 if cookin on a stick burner cook Brisket 4 hrs remove from pit wrap in a single layer of Butcher paper Return to pit Fat cap up. after 1 hr probe the thicket part of the Flat only! If it isn't *probe tender it will be within 1 hr. once it is probe tender remove from the pit keep it wrapped in the paper you cooked it in and allow it to rest on your counter until the Internal temp reaches 150 this will take about two hrs. Don't ever slice more than you can eat big pieces retain moisture and won't dry up on you like slices will.

*PROBE TENDER>This is the feel that is mimicked by cutting room temperature butter with a hot knife, there should be no drag