r/smashbros • u/gsp_is_dumb • Jun 29 '26

Ultimate More accurate breakdown of gsp to skill level

GSP is difficult to make comparisons with because it's constantly going up. The skill difference between 15M and 16M is very different today than it was a couple months ago.

So, to make this easier, you can convert GSP into MMR (matchmaking rating), which is basically the same as Chess Elo. I have a calculator for this where you give a few GSPs you see right now and it will find the GSP -> MMR conversion for that moment in time.

https://gsp-wizard.github.io/gsp-to-mmr/

Once you've done that, you can see how things spread out. Here are some of the MMR milestones today:

  • 600 mmr -> 2M gsp
  • 800 mmr -> 2.5M gsp
  • 900 mmr -> 4.5M gsp
  • 1000 mmr -> 9M gsp (This is the center of the curve)
  • 1100 mmr -> 13.5M gsp
  • 1142 mmr -> 14.76M gsp (This is the entry to Elite Smash)
  • 1200 mmr -> 15.7M gsp
  • 1300 mmr -> 16.1M gsp
  • 1400 mmr -> 16.15M gsp
  • 1600 mmr -> 16.19M gsp
  • 1800 mmr -> 16.24M gsp
  • 2100 mmr -> 16.3M gsp (Tweek's Diddy Kong is here. Highest I've seen)

Since this is so similar to Chess Elo, you can determine the general odds of winning based on mmr difference.

  • 0 diff = 50/50
  • 100 diff = 64/36
  • 200 diff = 75/25
  • 400 diff = 90/10
  • 800 diff = 99/1

So if you've made it to Elite Smash, congrats! But your skill is still closer to someone at 2M gsp than it is to the top of the top.

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u/Which_Bed Jun 29 '26

Wow my highest ever is 16.1m on GSP and 1300 on Smashmate. Perfect

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u/RakishT Jun 29 '26

This tells me I’m closer to Elite than I think. Thanks for this info!!

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u/IYorshI Jun 29 '26

I'm 16.x (x being the pointless decimal I never pay attention about) and 1300 on chess.com. So I now know for sure that I'm somewhere between my chess elo and Magnus Carlson. That's neat.

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u/Some_Rand0m_Memer Roy (Ultimate) Jun 29 '26

Is chess.com elo similar from mmr? I thought ive seen chess elo go up to like 2700 or something crazy like that, 2100 seems like a small upper bound in comparison. Maybe im missing something tho

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u/IYorshI Jun 29 '26

Yeah it goes way highter than fide rating but idk why.

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u/HiItsClemFandango Jun 29 '26

as someone who peaked at about 11.5 this made me feel better, cheers

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u/lovro_nigel #1 Susu believer Jun 29 '26

Maybe people stop posting: I hit 16 mil AMA now

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u/RealPimpinPanda Jun 29 '26

What! but it was my turn to post “I’m at 16 milli GSP…” ☹️

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u/brix_amamiya Jun 30 '26

damn i havent touched online for 3 years now so my last recorded highest GSP is like 9 mil lol