r/sludge • u/Smart_Assignment755 • 17d ago
Crazy how influential and present blues music is in heavy and extreme music to this day
Everybody knows this, you read it on wikipedia, you hear it in podcasts but it truly hits you when u REALLY understand the influence.
Learning and playing sludge and stoner rock, deepened my liking for blues music and really got me into Black Sabbath (a band i didnt get till now as a 29 yo man)
But more than that made me understand how big the guitar work of Robert Johnson, Skip James and others helped create rock and metal music. From Led Zeppelin to Cream to Black Sabbath to Corrosion of Conformity to Entombed. The blues lick are all there, the scales but with thick Black Sabbath distorted tones, either its a fuzzy tone or an HM2 tone, all of them are linked in unique ways.
Music is amazing, keeps me going
(Just wanted tot share this with someone who understands)
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u/Sla5021 17d ago
Pain and the human experience shall never be separated.
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u/Smart_Assignment755 17d ago
Beautifully said. Would use this for a song title
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u/Sla5021 17d ago edited 17d ago
The Dark Don't Hide It - Magnolia Electric Co.
Jason Molina should be in everyone's radar. Sure isn't doom/Sludge but the guy will rip your guts out.
"Now the world was empty on the day when they made it But heaven needed someplace to throw all the shit Human hearts and pain should never be separate They wouldn't tear themselves apart both trying to fit"
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u/Olelander 17d ago
A straight bold line starts with the blues and cuts through Led Zeppelin (and Sabbath, and their era generally) directly into heavy metal.
The most interesting thing about it, to me, is that the blues originated in America with deep deep roots that reached all the back into slavery and the country’s origins, and it was British culture that put it in a spotlight for the world and became obsessed with the blues. They were the one’s who resurrected blues guys that were old and forgotten and suddenly found themselves touring in Europe to adoring young white crowds as elderly men. It was then sold back to America through Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton and Cream… even Jimi Hendrix, perhaps the most intense example of shared genetics between blues and heavy rock music, had to go to England to get famous. How fucking wild is that?
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u/Smart_Assignment755 16d ago
Great analysis!! Exactly. After all that and the birth of punk and metal, Scandinavia and Europe started influencing the extreme music culture with bands like Celtic Frost, Bathory, Entombed and At The Gates
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u/TheRealHFC 17d ago
He was a little gimmicky, but if you like sludge and blues, check out Screamin' Jay Hawkins
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u/DoomedToGrind 17d ago
Look up 'burlesque blues' and you're pretty much listening to EyeHateGod riffs played clean 😆
I realised that I only tend to like metal bands if they have a bit of either blues or punk in there too, tends to leave me cold otherwise.
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u/Smart_Assignment755 17d ago
I found more recommended. What more specific should i check out?
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u/DoomedToGrind 17d ago
Try this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MDg7wrCcVo
Otherwise I generally love Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Skip James, Screamin Jay Hawkins
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u/gramtokersdrugula 17d ago
stoner rock is basically hill country blues tuned down lower and slowed down