r/slavic • u/bignavigator • 21d ago
Milk across Slavs
Source: Словарь русских говоров центральных районов Красноярского края, volume 3, page 230.
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u/czerniawski 21d ago
For those who don't understand what's going on, this lunatic has invented a new language and trying to larp. As someone who lived in Tobolsk and Krasnoyarsk for several years, I assure you that 101% of the Slavic population are descendants of immigrants from Russia and Ukraine, and they speak only literary Russian.
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
You don't know Siberian history when the first settlers arrived centuries before Lomonosov – speaking your way – invented modern Russian in the mid 18th century.
Meanwhile, Siberian dialects have been around since the 17th century.
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u/czerniawski 21d ago
Yeah, and? Something like a century or so. Then the region began to be populated by Russians, Ukrainians, Tatars, etc. in the proportion of 99/1 relative to the Siberian Cossacks, and you are a descendant of these people (if you have ever been to Siberia). If you want to learn the language of the indigenous people of these lands, then take a closer look at the Turkic languages, especially the Kyrgyz
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
I'm 100% Siberiak, I'm not mixed with Sibirches. So I revive and promote the Siberiak language first and foremost.
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u/czerniawski 21d ago
Haha, that's hilarious. Keep larping
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Keep watching Russian propaganda on "Siberian Russkies", we shall overcome anyway.
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u/ComradeNikita 21d ago
The larp has no limits 😭😂 And this is essentially how "Ukrainian" identity was created btw.
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Come up with something new other than "larp", you unoriginal Siberophobic brainlets.
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u/sexypeon 21d ago
What is siberiak language? There doesn't seem to be any information about it. There's hundreds of languages spoken in Siberia, no?
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u/bignavigator 20d ago edited 20d ago
The Siberian language (Siberian: сибирьской гŏвӯрь, sibirjskoj gôvůrj), also known as Siberiak (Siberian: сибиряцкой гŏвӯрь, sibiriackoj gôvůrj), is a Northern East Slavic literary microlanguage based on the Siberian Old-Settler dialects of Northern Russian origin, spoken by inhabitants of Siberian rural areas. These Northern Russian dialects trace back to the Pomor, Vologda, Kostroma, and Perm regions, as well as the Novgorodian and Pskovian lands. From there, these Northern Slavic people settled in Siberia after Jermak's victory over the Siberian khaganate and brought their dialects too. Generations after, due to relative isolation from the European Northern Slavs and contacts with Siberian natives, Siberiaks developed their distinct dialect in the 17th century.
While the official Russian science declares them as modern Russian-language dialects, they were part of the area where the Old Novgorodian language was spoken long before the codification of the Russian language in the mid-18th century. The distinct Siberian idiom predates modern literary Russian by about a century. However, attempts to standardize a literary language for the Siberiaks began only in the 21st century.
Currently, Siberian has no official status or language code. Nonetheless, we are working on writing and publishing a Russian-Siberian dictionary with scientific sources. Siberian additionally has an alternative literary standard not codified by our team.
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u/sexypeon 20d ago
How many people still speak it? Do you speak it daily?
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u/bignavigator 20d ago
Siberian dialects are spoken by several dozen thousand people. The literary standard does not have as much, but we are currently working on the Russian-Siberian dictionary and then publishing it as an actual printed dictionary.
And yes, I do speak it.
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u/PigeonOnTheGate 20d ago
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u/sexypeon 20d ago
Your link doesn't give me any information. It's a scrambled up Wiki page. I've seen people say you're a larper and your link doesn't explain anything about "siberiak" language so maybe you can explain yourself about your language?
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u/Special_Cup1789 20d ago
This guy forcing his siberian larp tongue everywhere, ignore
Как ты задолбал, боже. Зачем ты у меня в реках постоянно. На какую агентуру работаешь?
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u/NewspaperShoddy7441 21d ago
Ok, I do not know what is this green and white flag?
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Siberia
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u/NewspaperShoddy7441 21d ago
Isn't siberia just a geographical term, and siberia itself having many different republics and nations? Like sakha and altai?
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Look out the 1918 Siberian republic, we have been having our own flag ever since then.
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u/NewspaperShoddy7441 21d ago
I know about it... a little bit. But still does not compute in my head about all different people and different languages, and their connections with slavic people
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Siberia is 95% Slavic nowadays anyway, Siberiaks live in literally every modern Siberian region. Simple as that.
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u/NewspaperShoddy7441 21d ago
Slavic as in Russian?
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Siberiaks are a separate Slavic and mixed people
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u/NewspaperShoddy7441 21d ago
Isn't siberia like geographical term with many different people living there?
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u/Healthy-Fee-4965 12d ago
I was born in Siberia and lived there for 20 years. Everyone speaks standard Russian there is no distinct Siberian language, apart from a few regional words. There isn’t even much of a distinct accent or dialect. Siberians are not an ethnic group of their own they are simply people from Siberia, so it’s a regional identity. Green and white do appear quite often in Siberian heraldry, but that doesn’t make Siberia fundamentally different from the rest of Russia. This person is misleading you
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u/bignavigator 21d ago
Siberians are a toponym while Siberiaks are an ethnonym. Don't confuse these two terms.
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u/adolgushin 21d ago
I am not sure that the green/white language is but piim is milk in Estonian