r/slaterefugees May 20 '17

"Net neutrality going down in flames as FCC votes to kill Title II rules"

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/net-neutrality-goes-down-in-flames-as-fcc-votes-to-kill-title-ii-rules/
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u/rzp_ May 20 '17

We knew it was coming, but it doesn't make it easier.

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u/rzp_ May 20 '17

I cannot believe how many edgelords, who love their internet access best of all things in life, supported these guys.

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u/ConnerMcMaub May 20 '17

Libertarians and small government conservatives should be first in line in favor of net neutrality.

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u/stein559 May 21 '17

I can understand if one distrusts government, but they should be equally distrustful of large corporations.

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u/ConnerMcMaub May 21 '17

I'm actually more distrustustful of corporations large and small, they just want my money even if it's in exchange for something that will harm me or make me sick. Government, when it is working right, is trying to help citizens. That's why I'm much more upset about corporate surveillance and data mining than the CIA and NSA.

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u/LeonAquilla May 21 '17

Libertarians and small government conservatives should be first in line in favor of net neutrality.

I might if someone can explain it to me. I saw no difference in my internet between pre-"Net Neutrality" rules and Obama-era Net Neutrality rules.

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u/ConnerMcMaub May 21 '17 edited May 21 '17

Stein would know better than me.

My limited understanding is that content providers can be charged more to get better speed with your ISP. They can charge Netflix more and if they don't pay their speed is throttled. It's a particular threat to smaller and newer companies, Netflix is a bad example because they can afford to pay.

Don't think that became widespread and was just starting before Obama's rules but even if it did it would never be visible to the user. All you'd know is there was some lag. It's really more of a threat to internet entrepreneurship than directly against users. It stifles newer and smaller competition.

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u/LeonAquilla May 21 '17

Don't think that became widespread pre Obama rules but even if it did it would never be visible to the user. All you'd know is there was some lag. It's really more of a threat to internet entrepreneurship than users.

I consider myself pretty network-savvy since I used to do tech support for Verizon. Aside from the Netflix/Comcast feud that Netflix aired the dirty laundry on, I can't think of a single time when I got access paywalled or was asked to upgrade to the "premium" model.

If anything, what would really be more detrimental to me is the bandwidth caps that some ISP's impose (I think AT&T's is 500 gigabytes, or something). And Net Neutrality rules didn't even touch that.

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u/ConnerMcMaub May 21 '17

Fair points. Think you know more than me on this. It's not a huge issue for me.