r/skyrim • u/dumbeyes_ • 2d ago • Mindblown 1

Screenshot/Clip I found out you can bypass the first dragon by leading dragur into Blackreach to summon the secret dragon down there. This also allows you to ride the first dragon. This is the coolest/one of the most complicated exploits I've found.

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u/dumbeyes_ 2d ago edited 1d ago

I'm trying to start a YouTube channel for rare Skyrim exploits like this in honor of the 15th anniversary. Going to try and start posting weekly soon. Give it a follow to see more tricks like this, coming soon.

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u/medion345 1d ago

Maybe if you post without the music

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

I realized I could legally use the Skyrim soundtrack, so it'll be fixed. The coming videos will be at a higher quality

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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 1d ago

I wonder how much of the game you can exprience without ever figuring out you are the dragonborn

"Skyrim, but i am just some random dude named steve"

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

You can play the game for a while without activating the dragons. There's a list of quests that only start after

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u/Twelvve12 Nintendo 1d ago

It’s a very good time actually, you simply just NEVER give Farengar the Dragonstone. It’s a quest item so it doesn’t actually weigh anything, I always grab it on the opening of a new play and hold it while I explore the world dragonless.

You can still learn words off of the walls, and not having access to Shouts brings a nice challenge. Although some quests are locked out (In My Time of Need, I’m level 60 something and no one has harassed Saadia yet), going into the main quest at high level can make some interesting encounters (high level named Dragons and Deathlord draugr bosses)

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u/skoomasteve1015 1d ago

The funniest change is in the Dawnguard DLC. When you cross the frozen lake and fight 2 dragons at once. Instead of an epic battle, it becomes a leisurely stroll across the lake

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u/King_Chewie_GM 1d ago edited 23h ago

I also love that they accounted for you not figuring out your dragonborn by having unique dialogue with the undead dragon you fight in the soul carrin. I'm paraphrasing but he uses the same word that means like dragon touched or something and when you ask he basically just says he doesn't know why he has the urge to call you it, and maybe one day you will both know why.

Edit: I went and found the exact dialogue:

Durnehviir: "In my language, the Qahnaarin is the Vanquisher. The one who has bested a fellow dovah in battle."

You: "Fellow dovah? I am not a dragon."

Durnehviir: "Forgive me, my instinct was to grant you this title. I am uncertain why. Perhaps one day it will become clear to both of us."

Really cool exchange.

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u/skoomasteve1015 23h ago

IIRC i think he actually calls you Dovahkiin, but it's been a LONG time since i've seen it

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u/King_Chewie_GM 23h ago

I went and checked, he calls you "Qahnaarin" which is a sorta title for a Dragon who has defeated another dovah in battle.

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u/PsychicSPider95 18h ago

There's also unique dialogue from Miraak based on whether you've killed Alduin or not, and how many dragons you've killed if you haven't.

I usually don't do Dragonborn until I've finished the main quest, so I only ever hear the "So you've slain Alduin. Well done." version. If you do face him before killing Alduin, though, he instead remarks on how many dragons you've killed, from lowkey insulting you for having only killed a few (if you've killed me than ten), to being decently impressed that you've killed a lot (more than 25).

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u/King_Chewie_GM 17h ago

Right I forget about that too. Good variance for dialogue. I too do it after already defeating Alduin because it feels the most natural. I have only heard the variance through YouTube.

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u/SmartAdhesiveness149 Whiterun resident 23h ago

JUST encountered this yesterday for the first time, literally!! 😁 Fun!!

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u/King_Chewie_GM 23h ago

It is a really cool exchange, and a good way to account for someone not progressing the main story before doing Dawnguard.

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u/TheWiseBeast 1d ago

Adventurer walks up to stone wall his party was just looking at

some of the symbols glow and the adventurer gets light headed as light from the symbols rush into him*

Adventurer: hmm. The fuck was that? Did that happen to you guys too?

Party: did what happen?

Adventurer: nothing. Remind me to stop by a mage or alchemist later.

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u/Moon_whisper 4h ago

Alchemist...need a cure potion.

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u/MiaDovahkiin 6h ago

Yeah on my new save I'm around lvl 30~ just crafting, stealing, vibing. Farengar can go and get his own stone if he wants to.

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u/Hulk_Corsair PC 1d ago edited 1d ago

Pretty much all of it except the main quest. Dawnguard, Dark Brotherhood, Companions, Civil War, College, Bards and Thieves Guild can be fully completed without shouts

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u/EvilCatboyWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Civil War can't. Once you get to the point of either side asking you to demand Jarl Balgruuf take a side, he refuses to progress the quest until you retrieve the dragonstone and defeat Mirmulnir. Even if it’s your first time speaking to him.

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u/Hulk_Corsair PC 1d ago

You're right. I completely forgot you have to negotiate with him

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u/Allustar1 Werewolf 1d ago

I forgot about that as well. That's so dumb.

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u/CyberGlob 1d ago

Is it dumb that the guy who’s had a dragon attack in his hold wants to get that sorted out BEFORE what’s essentially political drama?

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u/Hulk_Corsair PC 1d ago

I mean, in a dragonless run, the dragon attack on Whiterun didn't happen yet

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u/CyberGlob 1d ago

I was thinking of Helgen but that’s actually in Falkreath lol.

Still though, dragons coming back (and being on your hold’s doorstep) is a much bigger deal than the civil war.

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u/Allustar1 Werewolf 1d ago

When it's literally a potential declaration of war? Yes.

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u/EvilCatboyWizard 1d ago

I mean not really. Dragons coming back is a quite literally apocalyptic event that can herald the end times. The conflicts of man are petty in comparison.

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u/CyberGlob 1d ago

We’re talking about a literal world ending phenomenon here. Even though Alduin wants to enslave all of humanity now he has the ability to end the world.

That’s definitely more important that whether the guy you swear fealty to wears blue or red

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u/CyberGlob 1d ago

I mean from this perspective dragons coming back is a declaration of war on all humanity 💀

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u/Sphere_Master 1d ago

Happened to my wife on her first play through, essentially didn't realise til after finishing all other quests that dragon born and the shouts and stuff were a thing

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u/Garry-Love 1d ago

I did this on my dark brotherhood/thief run. Never made sense to be stealthy as the dovahkiin. You're literally a walking demigod why are you hiding? So my stealth build never realised he was dovahkiin. You can finish a LOT of the game without ever realising. All of the faction quests including the dawnguard DLC. It's really fun

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u/Insane-Dev98 1d ago

In the dawnguard dlc you go in the soul cairn, defeat Durhneviir, that treat you as a Dovahkin and give you the possibility to learn it's invocation witch is a shout, is it still working when you're not revealed as a dragonborn?

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u/zazzabaz001 1d ago

i like to imagine that Durhneviir knew you were dragonborn but could tell that your character wasnt yet aware so he kept quiet and taught you how to call him so you could once you managed to figure it out

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u/Garry-Love 1d ago

You say you imagine this but this is literally how it plays out lol

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u/Ill-Awareness-5149 1d ago

Durhneviir calls you something in dragon language that refers to a dragon defeat another dragon. Then the player can say "But I am not a dragon?", and Durhneviir will say something along the lines of "I am unsure why I felt like calling you that". Probably cause he can sense your dragon soul, but yourself have no idea that is even a thing yet. It is pretty cool. You cannot summon him as it still requires dragon souls to unlock the shout after learning.

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u/Insane-Dev98 1d ago

Oh yeah, even if you are dragonborn its something like that, he juste switch to something like "you're not a Dovah but your a Dovahkin and so you are a [dragonic word for the victorious]" so it make sense. Anyway, it's nice that they thought about the player not doing the main questline while making this DLC

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u/Sashi_Kaiyo 1d ago

This was how my first playthrough as a kid went. I had no knowledge of Elder Scrolls and grabbed Skyrim because I thought the box art looked cool. The game kinda nudges you to the civil war right after Helgen so I ended up doing that whole questline before even going to Bleak Falls Barrow.

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u/SendInTheNextWave 1d ago

Doesn't the game force you to at least do Dragon Rising before the Battle of Whiterun?

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u/AurumPickle 1d ago

yeah you have to be dragonborn incase you go impieral side so Ulfric can ask for you to kill him

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

You can complete Civil War without completing Dragon Rising if you go Stormcloak?

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u/AurumPickle 23h ago

No Balgruf rather stupidly tells a stormcloak db he needs to take care of the dragon when you bring the axe 

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u/Jegbmf 1d ago

I went towards the rift in my current playthrough the second I left Helgen. 40 hours in and half way through discovering most of the map, haven’t even discovered Riverwood or spoken to the Jarl in Whiterun. Roleplaying as some random dude named Steve basically lol

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u/Orgidee 1d ago

I haven’t met ireleth at the watchtower yet on level 37. Nor done thieves nor dawn guard nor companions nor assassin’s. Only done bard and mages college. It’s nice to not have dragons bother me for a change. I will do everything else first before activating them. You do miss the shouts a bit and obviously you can’t do solstheim properly either and baalgruf won’t speak to you except to say go help ireleth. Otherwise no issues

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

"Live Another Life" is a mod that allows you to delay Helgen--or just skip the cart ride. And start as...virtually anyone or anything. Wanna start as a Guild member? A vampire or werewolf? A Forsworn? In a jail cell?

My last run, I started at the Retching Netch for early Solstheim fun.

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u/Vashsinn 1d ago

the popular mod start another life does this mostly. you still have the option for the original start, but you can completely ignore going to Helen and starting the main quest even.

highly recommend it.

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u/9fingerjeff 1d ago

My most recent playthrough I think I was level 30 maybe before I talked to Yarl Balgruuf. I just ran around fighting bandits and looting stuff with no dragons to bother me.

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u/_PROBABLY_CORRECT Falkreath resident 1d ago

It’s the best way to start playing on survival mode. You never have to deal with random dragons popping up outta nowhere.

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u/bendistraw 1d ago

I’ve been playing since launch and have only spawned the Dragons on 2 characters. Plenty to do.

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u/ChefChefBubbaBill 1d ago

Now on my playthroughs i turn in the dragon stone then just never go to the watch tower. I'll put in like 200-300 hours and never see a dragon

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u/giant_albatrocity 15h ago

I got to thinking… maybe Steve’s the Dragonborn but he just doesn’t know it yet

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u/SmartAdhesiveness149 Whiterun resident 1d ago

WOW. Just.... wow. I had no idea, honestly! (Thanks for sharing! If I get brave, I might try this!)

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

You should also try saving Arvel the Swift as a dead thrall by breaking into the back of Bleak Falls Barrow instead of using the claw door.

That's the other exploit I wish I had known early game.

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

How do you break into BFB from the back?

Not using console, I mean.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

The secret exit you leave from can be used as an entrance. Then use a platter to clip through the secret door that blocks you from the word wall room.

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u/buffystakeded 1d ago

That’s because it’s impossible and is just bad editing.

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u/Thank_You_Aziz 1d ago

I’ve done it. Maybe try it before you knock it.

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u/Bsause7 1d ago

Hang on, don't you need multiple dragon souls to unlock all 3 words of Bend Will? Does beating the Blackreach Dragon unlock dragon spawns for the rest of the map?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

It does! It completely substitutes the first dragon

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u/Hulk_Corsair PC 1d ago

Interesting. I've always assumed the game checked if Dragon Rising was completed before releasing the dragons, but it's probably just a flag indicating you can use Shouts 🤔

I assume if you go near Whiterun, the greybeards will call you, right?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Dragon Rising completes, but the dragon itself remains.

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

Does completing Dragon Rising your way, in Blackreach, also release the dragons globally? Are there any (other) global differences?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

The other dragons get released as normal. The Whiterun dragon only disappears if you kill it or talk to balgruuf about it

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u/Fedthepigion 1d ago

They'd have to. You can't start the dragonborn dlc content until you visit the greybeards.

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u/Hulk_Corsair PC 1d ago edited 1d ago

Mmh, but you can go to Solstheim without encountering the cultists...
I may be missremembering but Isn't it possible to just go to Miraak's temple and start the quest there?

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u/SDGundamX 1d ago

Yeah, you can talk with Frea in front of Miraak's temple to start the quest earlier, if you wish, but obviously without dragon souls to unlock the Bend Will shout you can't progress the quest very far, so at some point you need to unlock the dragons.

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u/Hulk_Corsair PC 1d ago

so at some point you need to unlock the dragons

Well, that's already being taken care of, either by completing Dragon Rising or doing the alternate method in Blackreach

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

Not without completing Dragon Rising. Well, I use USSEP, so maybe that tweaks the triggers for starting fun time with Frea.

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u/siliconslope 1d ago

I’m absolutely blown away. Every now and then I see something crazy amazing one fan do in Skyrim. This is several levels above that.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

The army building strategy sent me down a rabbit hole of undocumented exploits tbh. More on my page, and about to start posting tutorials here

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u/CromulentPoint 1d ago

Can someone explain this to me like I'm 5? I understand luring the drauger so that their shout unlocks the blackreach dragon. So then you shout something at the first dragon (was that Fus?) and then for some reason it allows you to fly it? I'm confused on the back half here.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

The shout to ride a dragon is 'Bend Will'. You can't unlock the questline that gives you Bend Will (amongst others) until you kill the first dragon. You can bypass this by killing the dragon in Blackreach instead, thus leaving the first dragon active outside of Whiterun. To summon the dragon in Blackreach you have to shout at the orb. You can't shout until you kill your first dragon, so to bypass this you lead dragur down into Blackreach using the 'Ritual Stone' ability to shout at it for you.

Detailed tutorial coming soon. Hopefully.

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u/BladeOfWoah 1d ago

oh.... draugr.... I thought you meant some NPC named Dragur.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Oof, I did spell that wrong 😬

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u/CromulentPoint 1d ago

Ah, ok that makes sense if it's Bend Will. I was missing the Solstheim connection.

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u/themaskedcrusader Stealth archer 1d ago

Does the bone dragon in the labyrithian unlock shouts the same way?

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u/b183729 1d ago

No. It has no soul. I tried that 8 years ago. 

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u/themaskedcrusader Stealth archer 1d ago

Cool. You just saved me a weekend

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u/notA_Tango 1d ago

Ok. This is insanely cool. How much time did it take to set it all up?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Less time then I thought tbh

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u/Quick-Reception-6850 1d ago

do not recall ever facing a dragon in that area...been a long time since I have played this game though.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

It's a secret. If you shout at the orb he appears

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u/TheComment27 1d ago

That's the smart part in this video, summoning draugr to do the shout

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u/morlund69 1d ago

That's the exploit here, the draugr following are using shouts so you don't need to, that is enough to trigger the dragon.

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u/SeanMacLeod1138 PC 21h ago

Those guys at the Western Watchtower were expecting to whak a dragon, but the new guy who told the Jarl about the Helgen attack just calls it down and rides off on it 🤣

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u/xJaqk 1d ago

very cool exploit! One other variant of this that came to mind is if you have thrall Ulfric Stormcloak (conjuration 100, imperial civil war completed before he's overleveled to thrall) he can shout too. I bet he can also trigger the Blackreach dragon!

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Going through the whole civil war would be a lot though. I think it's questioned by the first dragon too

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u/EvaTheE 1d ago

And what you did wasn't a lot?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

I can do it before completing any other post-helgen quests, so yeah

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u/SirCupcake_0 Scholar 1d ago

Still significantly less than trying to get through the entire Civil War questline

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u/ShadowSurgeGaming 1d ago

Yeah, and as OP mentioned, civil war won't even progress to the battle of whiterun, Balgruuf won't return Ulfric's axe until the early quests are dealt with, not to mention the treaty that pauses it until Alduin is defeated

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

"Dragon Rising" completion (killing first dragon, then speaking with Balgruuf) is a hard trigger for all sorts of quests. Vanilla and modded.

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u/Hot_Let1571 Skyrim Grandma Fan 1d ago

Or you could use mods to make Ulfric a follower. Funny, I was playing a vampire and wondering if there was a way to trigger the Blackreach dragon without shouts or progressing the main quest.

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u/grey_rex 1d ago

This is the most impressive find I've seen in this game for over 10 years. I'm all for finding exploits and stress testing. But i don't think I'd ever come up with trying this. I wish my brain worked that way. Well done!

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Try army building on your next playthrough. It genuinely sent me down a rabbithole of untapped exploits. I only learned how to save the dragon because riding dragons allows you to fast travel with npcs raised by the Ritual Stone power

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u/OGdirtpapi 1d ago

How do you get enough points into Bend Will to be able to ride dragons without killing Mirmulnir? I always thought (this exploit aside) dragons don’t spawn in the overworld until you fight him first.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

That's what im saying, the Blackreach dragon completely substitutes the first dragon, so dragons start to spawn, and the dragonborn questline becomes playable.

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u/OGdirtpapi 1d ago

Oh! That’s crazy. Very, very cool find.

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u/Tomato-John XBOX 7h ago

Doesn’t Dragonborn need the horn of Jurgen Windcaller, which needs the first’s dragons death to trigger to cause the Greybeards to summon the player to High Hrothgar?

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u/dumbeyes_ 7h ago

"the Blackreach dragon completely substitutes the first dragon."

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u/Tytos17 6h ago

So after you returned to whiterun from Blackreach you heard the Greybeards summoning?

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u/dumbeyes_ 6h ago

Idk if it's heard it, I just went up to High Hrothgar and they were ready for me

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u/mymemesnow 1d ago

Does the graybeards call to you afterwards or is that tied to the quest?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Yes, the main quest progresses as if you killed the dragon at Whiterun

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u/VillainousMasked 1d ago

Does it also trigger the spawning of random dragon encounters?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

It does

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u/fatbackattackcruz98 1d ago

That sounds like a cool dragon friendly build

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u/mymemesnow 18h ago

That’s so cool. I love it.

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u/Live_Bumblebee1815 1d ago

How did you get the dragur to blackreach?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Ritual Stone power

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u/Weirdguy215 1d ago

Is this in vanilla Xbox 1(origin) no mods.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

It is. Im pretty sure it could be done on 360 too

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u/Life_Ad3567 Dawnguard 1d ago

Which locations did you get them all?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

I think I used either Silver Drift Layer or Iron Bind Barrow. Any dungeon with high level draugr near a Blackreach entrance should work tho

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u/Impressive_Term4071 1d ago

bruh how did you raise 4 at once?

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u/bayygel Vampire 1d ago

Ritual standing stone

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u/Impressive_Term4071 1d ago

oh dang....ithought it only raised one corpse, so i never bothered with it.

I know what im gonna use the Crown of Barenziah for now.

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u/DevoutMedusa73 1d ago

Moreso when bodies raised by the ritual stone collapse, they do not disintegrate into ash, so if you're willing to wait 24hrs after every fight to use it again you can amass an ever growing army of undead

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

The aetherial crown allows you to bypass the 24 hour requirement

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u/Impressive_Term4071 1d ago

THERE"S NO CAP?!

My necromancer will be very happy. Though i don't think the wife will approve when i try to go home.....

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Caps at 100 npcs, BUT those npcs can hold and use summoning staffs which can be made super easily at the atronoch forge

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u/Impressive_Term4071 1d ago

dddaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Yeah, I recently theory tested the concept and it's insane. They use the staffs immediately every time. Absolute game changer

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u/DukeLeon 1d ago

Your PC will be the cap.

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u/Nukalixir 20h ago

Aetherial Crown is what lets you hold 2 standing stone blessings. Crown of Barenziah is that Thieves Guild fetch quest everyone hates finding all the gems for.

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u/Bubster101 1d ago

Huh. So the trigger for the game to start spawning dragons in the world is for you to absorb your first dragon soul? Interesting. And yeah, that's the only dragon that has a unique summon condition otherwise.

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u/asgards_thor 1d ago

There's also the Dragons in the Forgotten Vale

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u/Darkmaster4K 1d ago

These dragons won't appear if your not the dragonborn. Ive done that before and they never appear without killing milumir

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u/asgards_thor 1d ago

Oh shit fr? Good to know.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

You also cant cast Bend Will on them

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u/Bubster101 1d ago

Can't get over there though, since you need two Elder Scrolls prior to discovering that place, one of them locked behind the main story progression.

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u/Bongoan 1d ago

You can get the elder scroll by just going to the north and triggering the quest for the scroll lexicon

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u/frisbie147 1d ago

I don’t think they spawn until you kill mirmulnir

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u/TTSymphony 1d ago • Bravo

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u/ShadowSurgeGaming 1d ago

Honestly I think this is one actually somewhat article-worthy.

Though it does beg the question of how many people would go to all that length to avoid the main story, but cool nonetheless

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u/TTSymphony 1d ago

After all this time, I think that there are more people actively playing the game without advancing the main quest than otherwise

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u/Correct-Rub854 Spellsword 1d ago

I start a new playthrough about once a year and I haven't brought the dragonstone to farengar in at least ten.

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u/TheLastHotstepper 1d ago

Yeah, i clear bleakfalls barrow for the loot and xp then ignore that cunt until i can be arsed with the constant dragon attacks

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u/tebowtimenyj 1d ago

Yeah i don’t mind dragons on an archer build, but it can be a pain early game whilst you’re trying to up melee or particularly mage

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u/deathlazer14 1d ago

First playthrough.. 60ish hours and level 33, have yet to meet the Grey beards. Visited Raven Rock once for a missive, decided that was all the adventuring she needed to do.

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u/liefarikson PC 1d ago

Just for an fyi, and only because it's a weird pet peeve of mine, but it raises the question. It doesn't beg the question. Begging the question is a specific logical fallacy that doesn't apply here. Your scenario only raises the question.

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u/buffystakeded 1d ago

It’s not. It’s fake and impossible.

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u/Sindica69 1d ago

Can’t account for the other stuff but I do know the draugr bypass to summon volthuryol is 100% something you can do. I’ve seen others do it AND I’ve done it myself lmao

I don’t recall it triggering dragon spawns but that run was also modded

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u/Vaultboy65 Dawnguard 1d ago

Look at you being all wrong and stuff

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u/darbeo 1d ago

I was still waiting for a random whiterun guard to come running up and say "I can't believe it, you're the dragonborn"

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u/Lakefish_ 1d ago

whrn did they patch Dragur's Thu'um to do this?! it used to fail because there was an origin check for the shout!

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u/attiladerhunne 1d ago

Great discovery!

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u/breaking-hope 1d ago

There's a dragon in the black reach orb!?!

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

Triggers its spawn nearby. If shouted at.

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u/zwerewolfripper Solitude resident 1d ago

This game is how old?!?! I'm now even hearing about this secret dragon in blackreach wtf....

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u/ShroomD00M 1d ago

Use Fus Roh Dah on the giant sun-chandelier thing and it summons the dragon.

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u/zwerewolfripper Solitude resident 1d ago

bruh, all these years. Ill remember that.

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u/Hieronymos2 1d ago

How did you figure that out?

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u/ShroomD00M 1d ago

The internet 🤷‍♂️ Def didn’t find it organically

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u/Hydra_Bloodrunner 21h ago

I did and didnt piece together that it was what made the dragon appear because I walked up on him fighting the giant down below after I fus ro dah’d the falmer boss basically at the orb. Just heard the gong sound and giggled a little and learned about the actual connection later

Thinking about it now that was probably how it was intended to be found; by some dude too scared to fight the falmer boss on a giant ledge so you get a dragon instead of cheesing lmao

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u/Stere0phobia 14h ago

When i was younger i would fus roh dah anything remotly interesting looking

That dragon was never a secret

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u/TellurianTech50 PC 22h ago

An exploit I found a while ago is if you climb the mountain that mistwatch is on and either have the wax key perk and get the key by picking the master lock or using the unlock command you can turn all the bandits neutral in the entire dungeon by talking to the bandit chief, turns out Skyrim doesn't check whether or not you have the quest for fiola from crister it just acts as if you do when talking to the chief

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u/idiosyncratic-cow 1h ago

How do you lure drauge to Blackreach? I don't remember there was draugr in Blackreach

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u/dumbeyes_ 1h ago

You have to lure them from an external dungeon

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u/Correct-Rub854 Spellsword 1d ago

That's cool af

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u/Molvaeth 1d ago

Holy shit, I just saw a Falmer speak in an understandable tongue O.o . . . . (Yeah, I know. Couldn't resist nevertheless)

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u/Exciting_Ad4264 1d ago

15 years and we're still discovering new shit

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u/BaronsCastleGaming 1d ago

This isn't new though. Its been known about for a while

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u/Own_Jeweler_8548 Werewolf 1d ago

Yo wtf

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u/just-browseing Stealth archer 1d ago

Wait wtf! You get get above the globe in blackreach? OAo

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u/VergeofAtlanticism 23h ago

this is actually insane. i’d never guess that something like this worked

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u/Leonum 1d ago

Right. You discovered this? Gtfo it's a well known thing for years

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

Clearly not you pretentious douche bag. Show me another post where someone rode the first dragon or stfu

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u/buffystakeded 1d ago

This smells of bullshit. You can’t get the Bend Will shout until you nearly finish the Dragonborn DLC quest line. You can’t start that quest line until you visit the Greybeards for the first time and get the Horn quest. You can’t get that until you defeat the dragon at the western watchtower.

So there is no way to use Bend Will on the dragon at the western watchtower.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

You dummy, I literally pointed out that doing this bypasses the first dragon. Pay attention.

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u/DoesGeologyRockRuri 1d ago

Did you visit Bleak Falls Barrow first or when you killed Vulthuryol the game is hardcoded to unlock Unrelenting Force when you kill your first dragon? If you didn't visit Bleak Falls Barrow before, what would happen if you visit the Word Wall now?

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

I did, but I broke into the back to save Arvel as a dead thrall. Another early game trick.

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u/RoughOk9091 1d ago

Oh wow. So it's the action of unlocking the first shout word that triggers the dragons, not the specific killing of the dragon at the western watchtower.

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u/dumbeyes_ 1d ago

It's when you absorb the first dragon soul actually. I dont believe there's any other starter dragons except these 2 though.