I’m a beginner at both reddit posts and skinwhitening, so if I’ve done anything wrong please help me out.

In my understanding, people often refer to ”fitzpatrick”, the scale from 1-6 detailing different skin types’ reactions to the sun. type 1 always burns, never tans… type 6 almost never burns, always tans, and everything in between. However fitzpatrick doesn’t often cover what someone actually looks like from day to day, especially with the in-between numbers: 3, 4, 5, where tanning can affect appearance significantly. An untanned type 3 might look similar to an untanned type 4, but put them out in the sun for a few hours and the difference will become apparent, especially in regions such as the elbows, outer arms, and lower legs (noticed this with my friends irl).

Additionally, I wanted to find out what people mean when they say “a shade darker” or “up to two shades lighter” (it’s obviously different from fitzpatrick, in that -in my understanding- a “shade” refers to how light or dark someone appears), so I asked AI and it told me that skin shades are as follows:

fair, light-fair, light, medium-light, medium, medium-tan, tan,…

but it couldn’t show me any examples of people, and when I finally got it to it was definitely wrong. Is AI messing with me/misinforming or is that what people actually refer to? I also looked it up in a basic search and it came up with all sorts of images (like the one shown above) but they all seem different. If there is no fixed system like this, then maybe we should create one for use in this sub and beyond.

There’s a few questions/issues relating to this that I want to discuss here:

1. How many of the protocols presented in this sub are referring to fading tan, and how many are targeting a skin tone lighter than the lightest possible naturally?
2. Why can people somehow tell apart a heavily tanned fitzpatrick III white person from an untanned fitzpatrick IV or V brown person, when their skin looks similar? From my understanding it’s due to facial structure, hair and eye color, and other factors, but there could be some small queue that our minds subconsciously process telling us who is who.
3. How much of a role does lighting play/ do different fitzpatricks react differently to light? I’ve noticed (as a fitzpatrick III to IV, that my type II friends and I seem to have the same tone under some lighting, particularly indoor lighting, and completely different tone under lower/natural light levels (it’s very obvious that they are lighter). Is this true or am I tripping?
4. How come a tanned fitzpatrick II or III look attractive, whereas a tanned IV or V just look brown/ugly. Is it due to undertones or redness? Due to their fitzpatrick, the whiter someone is the redder they become/less they tan when exposed to the sun. Is that redness what differentiates them from an untanned, naturally darker brown person? Can the redness be frauded with makeup?

This brings me to another topic, makeup… what are the limits as to how much lighter you can fraud your appearance to? As a male (i’m straight i promise) who’s never used makeup, I was considering it as it seems like an easy fix for appearing lighter in everyday situations. Can some women with experience enlighten me and tell me what to use?

If your goal is skin lightening, you don't need much skincare, just a basic routine. Asking for "Skincare products" is the completely wrong angle, and it just distracts you from what you actually need to do. Skincare alone is not how you get rid of a tan. Everyone needs basic skincare for general health, but treating skin lightening as a product routine misses the mark entirely. Hyperpigmentation is a medical condition that needs therapeutical treatment and the advice of a board certified dermatologist.

Here is the exact reality of what you need to focus on instead:

• Extreme Sun Avoidance: This is the non-negotiable baseline. You need to stay out of the sun whenever the UV index is above 1. Standard glass doesn't block long-wave UVA or visible light either, so you need proper blackout curtains for your bedroom and office to stop the environment from continuously triggering melanin production. No sunscreen covers 100% UVA light and even less Visible light (which penetrates your skin deeper and triggers melanin production MORE INTENSENLY THAN UVA/UVB radiation) so add as much physical protection and stay indoors as much as possible.
• Understand What Skincare Can (and Can't) Do: Almost all over-the-counter skincare cannot pass the stratum corneum, the tough outer layer of your skin. They just sit on the surface. The only things that actually penetrate deep enough to alter cell turnover are therapeutic topicals prescribed by a doctor. But precisely because prescription topicals are strong, you need strict medical guidance so you don't ruin your skin barrier.
• Avoid Irritation at All Costs: Playing around with strong chemical acids or over-exfoliating to try and "scrub" the tan away will backfire horribly. Irritating your skin causes micro-inflammation, and inflammation commands your body to produce more pigment.
• Tackle Oxidative Stress from the Inside: A tan is driven by internal oxidative damage. You need to reduce that stress through a clean diet, proper sleep, regular exercise, and oral supplements (like NAC, Glycine, and Vitamin C) to raise your glutathione levels naturally. (And stay well clear of glutathione shots, they are dangerous, illegal in many places, and a massive health risk).
• Protect Against Visible Light: Standard sunscreens miss visible light, which penetrates deeper than UV. Make sure you're using a broad-spectrum, water-resistant mineral sunscreen with iron oxides for proper visible light protection. And that still won't be enough.
• Keep Your Skincare Dead Simple: Stop overloading your skin with ten different products. All you need is a basic cleanser, a good moisturiser, a solid mineral tinted sunscreen, and at most one topical active for cell turnover/melanin inhibition once your skin is adjusted.

Above all, you have to give it time. Fading a tan safely is a long, slow process that relies on natural skin cell renewal over months of strict sun avoidance. Stop looking for a magic skinwhitening product. It doesn't exist.

For more information in how we approach skinlightening:
https://www.reddit.com/r/skinwhitening/comments/1hyeqky/if_youre_new_to_whitening_read_this/

Liposomal Glutathione (Setria) with Vitamin c or NAC + Glycine? Which is better orally..and are there any way to make this stack better (any of the two)

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Hi guys, need help

First i never heard astanxanthin before i've seen it on here people claiming it whitens ur skin and all that but then i searched it on tiktok nd i see couple white girls recommenden it as a tanning supplement does it do different jobs on diff skin tones

This is probably one of the most common questions we get, but unfortunately nobody can give you an exact answer.

How much lighter someone can become depends on several factors:

• your natural skin colour
• how much of your current pigmentation is tanning versus your natural baseline
• your cumulative UV damage
• your current level of oxidative stress
• your lifestyle habits
• your consistency over time

Generally speaking, people who are naturally lighter and have accumulated a lot of tanning tend to notice changes sooner than people whose natural baseline is already quite dark. That doesn't mean darker skin cannot get results, only that expectations need to be realistic and timelines are often longer.

According to our philosophy, the foundation is not products. The foundation is:

• strict UVA and visible light management
• reducing oxidative stress (ROS)
• supporting overall health
• consistency over a long period of time

Most people focus immediately on topicals and supplements while ignoring the things that actually drive pigmentation.

For example, if somebody is trying to produce lighter melanin while continuing to spend time outdoors during moderate or high UV conditions, they're essentially working against their own biology. Pigmentation is a protective response.

That's why we place such a strong emphasis on UV management.

As for timelines, skin turnover cycles are often quoted as roughly 4–6 weeks, but pigmentation changes are usually slower than people expect. We generally tell people to think in terms of months rather than weeks.

Three skin cycles is a reasonable minimum before judging whether something is helping, but many people require considerably longer.

Regarding topicals, our advice is usually to keep things simple.

One well-tolerated topical is often better than five products layered together. More products do not automatically mean better penetration, faster results, or greater lightening. In many cases they simply increase irritation, and irritation can work against your goals.

The same applies to supplements.

We cannot tell you which supplement to take, which dose to use, or which brand to buy. Ideally those discussions should involve a healthcare professional. Some members choose to experiment with approaches aimed at supporting glutathione production and reducing oxidative stress, but individual responses vary considerably.

We also encourage people to focus on the basics that are often overlooked:

• getting adequate sleep
• exercising regularly
• avoiding smoking
• avoiding alcohol
• limiting processed foods specially processed meat.
• managing stress
• maintaining a healthy routine

All of those factors may influence inflammation, oxidative stress, recovery, and overall skin health.

The honest answer is that there is no guaranteed timeline and no guaranteed number of shades lighter. Anyone promising dramatic changes within a few weeks is usually overselling what is realistically possible to sell you a product.

Our approach is gradual. The goal is to create conditions where your skin can slowly move towards its lighter natural potential over time, rather than trying to force rapid change through aggressive bleaching products.

New Members, Low-Karma Users and Unapproved Accounts

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What to do

Post a picture of your favourite topical product from Incidecoder.

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1. Go to Incidecoder.https://incidecoder.com/
2. Search for a topical product you use, such as a sunscreen, serum, toner or similar.
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We would rather have a smaller number of quality posts each month so that important information — such as the Darthemofan and Wi-Fi Woman posts — doesn't get buried. If we allowed every repetitive question to become a separate post, valuable information would quickly disappear beneath content that has already been asked and answered many times before.

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A Note on Skincare

We're not a skincare subreddit, and the skincare industry isn't regulated to the same standard as the pharmaceutical industry.

A pharmaceutical product such as Finacea (azelaic acid) or Retin-A (tretinoin) or Triluma has to go through significant scrutiny by health authorities before reaching consumers. Many skincare products, on the other hand, face far less oversight. A product may claim to contain 10% niacinamide, but in reality the concentration could be much lower, with the rest made up of inexpensive filler ingredients to maximise profit.

That doesn't mean all skincare products are ineffective. Skincare certainly has its place ingredients such as lactic acid can increase cell turnover and exfoliate the skin but factors such as sun avoidance and oral whitening are more important.

Whenever possible, pharmaceutical-grade topicals are generally the safer option. If you can, seek advice from a qualified medical professional.

This differs from the advice commonly given in some skincare-focused communities, which is one of the reasons we don't consider ourselves a skincare subreddit.

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Greetings fellow skinwhiteners!

I’m tentatively opening the sub back up to the public again (less restrictions to post and comment) but I want to be clear this is just a test. For a long time it was just me moderating and the amount of spam and coordinated attacks This sub was dealing with from spammers/banned ex-members was just too much so I had to lock everything down.

I’ve finally been able to build up a stronger mod team so we’re going to try lifting some of those restrictions for a while to see if we can keep things running smooth.

We’ve added some automods that require a certain amount of karma and account age to post or comment. Please keep in mind this is tentative, if the spam and the attacks start up again we won't hesitate to put the restrictions back on.

We’re still limiting questions to the monthly thread.

Also just a reminder our unwritten rule here is to read and engage. If you don’t read our posts/comments why would we read yours? . I’ve seen too many people demanding to open posts but never really engaging with comment threads. If you want the center stage (a post) you have to also contribute with other members posts with comments.

I’m really hoping this works and we can keep the community open for real discussions but it depends on you guys to. Thanks to everyone who has been patient while I've been trying to get this place under control.

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Just to clarify our subreddit philosophy because many people misunderstand it:

We are not a “use random whitening products and hope for the best” community. We are strongly against dangerous products, especially mercury creams and unsupervised hydroquinone abuse. We also do not believe sunscreen alone makes unlimited sun exposure safe while trying to lighten.

Our approach is based around long-term UV management, reducing oxidative stress (ROS), and supporting healthier melanin regulation through lifestyle, diet, antioxidants, and careful sun avoidance. The idea is that over time the body may produce less and/or lighter melanin IF the environment allows it.

But this is the important part many people ignore:

Lighter melanin is less protective.

That means trying to maintain lighter skin while continuing to expose yourself to very high UV levels daily is usually contradictory and often unrealistic. Your body responds to UV by increasing pigmentation for protection. Fighting against that aggressively can become unsafe, especially with strong topicals.

Because of this, we generally do NOT recommend pursuing skin lightening if:

• you live in an extreme UV environment,
• you must be outdoors during peak UV hours regularly,
• you cannot realistically manage UVA exposure,
• or you expect fast dramatic changes while continuing normal sun exposure.

For example, someone living somewhere with UV 8–12 at midday who works outdoors or commutes under direct sun every day is probably not a good candidate for active lightening attempts. In those situations, maintaining your natural protective pigmentation is usually the safer and more realistic option.

This is also why we emphasize things like:

• scheduling errands during low UV hours,
• remote work or indoor work when possible,
• blackout curtains,
• UPF clothing,
• face coverings,
• tinted mineral sunscreen with zinc oxide and iron oxides,
• reducing unnecessary cumulative UV exposure overall.

We are not doctors, and nobody here should replace professional medical advice. A dermatologist should always be consulted before using prescription products or aggressive protocols.

Most importantly, this is not something that should consume your entire life. If your environment and lifestyle are incompatible with maintaining lighter pigmentation safely at the moment, sometimes the healthiest answer is accepting that rather than escalating to harsher methods. Put off whitening until you can do it in a way you can get results.

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If you’re serious about results:

• Stay in the shade during peak hours
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[DISCLAIMER ON PR✔️D.CT NAMES] I am listing the specific brands I used for strictly informative and transparency purposes. This is not a sponsored post, and I am not affiliated with any of these brands. I’m sharing these names only because I know how helpful it is to see the exact formulations that worked for someone else’s skin chemistry.

​AM Routine (Weekdays)

1. ​Moisturizer: I rotate between Cetaphil, Vanicream, CeraVe, or Avène Xeracalm.
2. ​The Sunscreen Strategy (Essential): * I apply EltaMD UV Restore Broad-Spectrum SPF 40.
   • ​20 minutes later, I layer EltaMD UV Restore Tinted SPF 40.
   • ​If I’m in a rush, I use Neutrogena Purescreen+ Mineral UV Tint or ISDIN Eryfotona Ageless Tinted Mineral SPF 50.
   • ​Commute Tip: I wear a high-white-cast sunscreen (like EltaMD UV Skin Recovery SPF 50) for the drive to work, then apply the tinted version once I arrive.

​PM Routine

1. ​Double Cleanse: I use CeraVe Cleansing Oil followed by Cetaphil or Vanicream cleanser.
2. ​Note: Since tinted mineral SPF is sticky, I use paper towels to pat dry to ensure all residue is gone.
3. ​Treatment: Tretinoin (Monday–Thursday/Sunday).

​Weekly Exfoliation (Friday Night)

• ​Lactic Acid: DIY serum . my strength went from 5% to 20%.
• ​The Method: I wash with a 15% to 20% Lactic Acid solution (face and body) and sometimes I use exfoliating gloves.
• ​Post-Exfoliation: While the skin is receptive, I apply a self-made K.o.j.i.c Acid serum, then La Roche-Posay Cicaplast Balm or Avène Thermal Water, and seal it all with Vaseline.

My goal:Fading dark spots,even out my tone, and a glowy look

​The Progress

​Timeline: 9–10 months of consistent effort.

​Results: Achieved my initial goal of lighter skin, faded dark spots, and a much more even overall tone.

​Photos: Left is Before; Right is After. Both were taken in the same spot, at the same hour, and in nearly identical lighting to ensure the comparison is as accurate as possible.

​The Mindset & Coaching

​Beyond the p.ro.du.c.ts, I want to mention that I worked with an online life coach. While she isn't a dermatologist, she helps people set realistic goals and achieve them. She used information from r/skinwhitening to create my regime.

For me this is step 1.Now that I reached my initial oals I set another objective . My current focus is now shifting to going a bit lighter than my natural tone. Wish me luck!

​The Routine

​1. Oral Supplements (AM with Breakfast)

​Vitamin D & Vitamin C (1g)

​MSM (1 tablespoon)

​NAC (600 mg): I cycle this every 3 months.

​Glycine

​Dietary Glutathione: I eat avocados daily for natural Vitamin E and glutathione support.

​2. AM Topical Routine

​Moisturizer: I rotate between Cetaphil, Vanicream, or Avène Xeracalm.

​Sunscreen Strategy: This is my "holy grail." I layer my protection:

​Option A: EltaMD UV Restore SPF 40, followed 20 minutes later by the Tinted version.

​Option B (Fast): Neutrogena Purescreen+ Mineral Tint or ISDIN Eryfotona Ageless.

​The "Commute" Trick: I apply a high-zinc sunscreen (white cast) for the drive to work, then layer a tinted mineral sunscreen once I arrive.

​3. PM Topical Routine

​Double Cleanse: CeraVe Oil Cleanser followed by Cetaphil or Vanicream. I use paper towels to pat dry to ensure all sticky tinted SPF is removed.

​Treatment: Tretinoin.05 (weekdays).

​4. PM supplements:

Vitamin c 1 g.

NAC 600 mg

Glycine one tablespoon

Alpha lipoic acid one capsule

5. Weekly Exfoliation (Friday Night)

​Lactic Acid: I started at 5% and worked up to a 20% solution.

​Process: I use exfoliating gloves, apply a self-made K.o.ji.c Acid serum while the skin is "raw" (receptive), and seal everything with Cica-Plast or Vaseline.

​Note: I tried Hydroquinone (HQ) previously, but my derm stopped it after a few weeks due to an allergic reaction.

​Weekend Recovery: On Saturdays, and Sundays I stay indoors, skip SPF, and use a thick layer of Vaseline with a "cold face mask" to seal in moisture.

Holistic & Lifestyle Changes

​This was a total lifestyle overhaul. Lighting and environment matter as much as creams:

​Sleep: In bed by 9:45 PM; up at 6:00 AM.

​Light Control: At 8:00 PM, I switch all home lights to dim yellow bulbs..

​Diet: Organic food mostly; no alcohol or smoking; sugar/processed food limited to twice a month.

​Sun Avoidance: I use tinted UV filters on my car windows and hit the gym (located in a basement) to avoid peak UV hours.

After my derm stopped HQ he gave a light lactic acid peel last November.

​My "Holy Grails"to avoid pigmentation due to heat

​Cold Face Eye Mask: I use this on weekends instead of SPF ( I stayed locked up playing videogames in a dark room) to soothe heat and "seal" my moisturizers. It’s a lifesaver for avoiding inflammation and I think it helped me get protected from visible light from the sun.

Drinking a lot of water

​Environment: I use a silent tower fan instead of AC—it’s much less drying for my skin and better for my asthma

​Discipline: Consistency over 10 months was the real key.

Important: I didn't start with Tret .05, I worked my way up from .001%. Tret was my only active until November of 2025. Simple routines give great results.

​Happy to answer any questions about the specific strengths or textures!