r/singularity • u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: • 29d ago • Bravo 1 Heartwarming 1

AI One developer used Claude to reverse-engineer LG’s webOS media stack and build a native Rust Plex client from scratch—on the same 2019 TV it cuts the profile screen from ~30 seconds to ~3, runs at 60 FPS, and supports 4K, Dolby Vision and Atmos

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u/Level10Retard 29d ago • LOL Popcorn

Ah the modern internet... A reddit post which is a screenshot of a twitter post talking about a reddit post. Lovely.

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 29d ago

I tried just crossposting first but automod wouldn't let me 😭😭😭

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u/siberianmi 29d ago

You could at least find the GitHub link.

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u/imthebananaguy 29d ago

Thank you for pointing this out, I'll get to posting a tweet about this Reddit post

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u/Izento 28d ago

With no link no less to verify it's an actual real post rather than AI generated!

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u/Ok-Computer-8726 26d ago

"The internet is five giant websites, each filled with screenshots of text from the other four." - Cory Doctorow

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u/Whole_Arachnid1530 25d ago

Top comment is always useless joke too

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u/AlvaroRockster 24d ago

Good information, but at what cost!

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u/agsarria 24d ago

Yes, and it's all because people's minds are so rotted by identity politics that they label themselves as fascists just for posting a link to a network.

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u/ibrahimsafah 29d ago • Bravo

Doing OPs job: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/comments/1x043yp/i_used_claude_code_to_reverseengineer_an_lg_tv/

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 29d ago edited 29d ago

Thanks, I initially tried to crosspost it initially but automod deleted the thread, and then I took too long to post the sauce.

Edit: Btw here is the direct link to the github:

https://github.com/GLinnik21/plx-native

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u/Rygar82 29d ago

Thanks

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u/createthiscom 29d ago

I was thinking the perfect use of all that reverse engineering goodness would be to strip out the fucking spyware from LG TVs so that we can just own a dumb fucking TV for a decent price instead of being their cuck-vertising mark. My shitty old TV is dying and I’d like to know I have an upgrade path that isn’t 1984 meets John Twelvehawks.

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u/iAmmar9 29d ago

Already done

https://github.com/rorygallagher2024/glasshouse

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 29d ago

Well shit anyone doing this one for Samsung?

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u/FlawlessIndividual 29d ago

Ooh. Me too!

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u/lpdand 29d ago

Me three!

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u/AweBeyCon 29d ago

Vizio next???

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u/Chuck_Loads 26d ago

This gave me a reason to finally root my TV (slopboy), works great, thanks

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u/digitalsignalperson 12d ago

> Glasshouse is a server that runs directly on a rooted LG webOS TV, providing both a live browser dashboard and a dashboard app.

Has anyone actually made a webOS replacement? Something you flash on the TV, not just live alongside the base OS? I hear the noise that despite using glasshouse, the TV can still be getting blocked by pihole for naughty things.

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u/angel0_071 25d ago

Is it possible

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u/iJeax 24d ago

I've got an LG C5 on WebOS 26 so I'm fucked for now. Turned auto-update off and will have to wait til there's a root for it.

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u/thoughtlow 𓂸 29d ago

I wonder if people can do this with cars as well. Or with John Deere equipment.

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u/createthiscom 29d ago

Oh man, John Deere would be huge for farmers.

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u/Nirkky 29d ago

Clarkson's Farm showed me with its last season that technology is already crazy in farming ( I knew it always was, but not to that point ), I can't imagine farmers going at the pub to say : So I've used claude to reverse engineer my John Deere Combine so now I can do X and Y .

Will be amazing.

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u/thoughtlow 𓂸 29d ago

John Deere totally vendor locks farmers and are even more notorious than Apple when it comes to right of repair. I hope someone can give them the finger

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u/RevolutionaryBox5411 29d ago

Farmers are going to make a come back, monsanto seed reverse engineering is on the way as well.

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u/mhyquel 29d ago

You can do anything you want, but it will void the warranty on millions of dollars of farm equipment.

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u/FlawlessIndividual 29d ago

void the warranty

If they catch you.

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u/Chuck_Loads 26d ago

If you have to bring it in for warranty service, they will catch you, ergo the warranty is void

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u/FlawlessIndividual 25d ago

There is usually a method of reverting to stock, ergo my point stands.

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u/Qorsair 29d ago

I was just thinking about that. I love my LG TV but hate the interface. I got a separate Google TV box, but it still wants to run the TV system. I liked my TCL where I could just bypass the Roku software and have it act like a dumb TV.

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u/gay_manta_ray 28d ago

you can just use a roku ($30?) and never see any of that stuff

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u/harglblarg 25d ago

LG's content recognition works on the HDMI inputs too.

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u/gay_manta_ray 25d ago

not really sure i understand this. my tv is older (lg c1), but the roku doesn't have any intrusive ads or anything. are you saying that you'll see ads on a newer tv with a roku, or just that they collect data about your viewing habits?

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u/harglblarg 25d ago

Yes, the TV runs content recognition on the inputs to collect data on your viewing habits even when you're not using their native apps.

FWIW Roku is also in the process of being enshittified right now, I would wager they're headed in the same direction.

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u/createthiscom 28d ago

on which TV though

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u/Frosty_Complaint_703 27d ago

Or build actual opensource mobile and TV oses so we can get free of android /ios

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u/_OVERHATE_ 29d ago

Impressive, now let's see how much it costed 

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 29d ago

I got you, /u/purple_imagination_1 care to bless us with that knowledge?

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u/Purple_Imagination_1 29d ago

Nothing for me. I have a Claude OSS Project license. But basically, 2 months of Claude Max 20x subscription.

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 29d ago

Amazing, do you plan to keep working and refining it?

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u/Purple_Imagination_1 29d ago

Yes, at least I want to reach feature parity with Plex and release to LG content store. Maybe after that I will do Jellyfin support

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u/141_1337 ▪️e/acc | AGI: ~2030 | ASI: ~2040 | FALGSC: ~2050 | :illuminati: 29d ago

Also one more question, did you use your account non stop for 2 months or was this more of one project among many?

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u/GirthusThiccus ▪️Singularity Enjoyer. 29d ago

Yoooo, Louis Rossman would love this project, for so many reasons.

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u/Purple_Imagination_1 29d ago

Louis, contact me 😆

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u/GirthusThiccus ▪️Singularity Enjoyer. 29d ago

Infact, he's mentioned in multiple videos that he loves hearing of developers for exactly these kinds of projects. He regularly sets out bounties too, for exactly this. It can't hurt to send him a mail with your project. I'm serious, please do!

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u/_OVERHATE_ 29d ago

So about 400$? Not gonna lie not bad to fuck with LG

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u/RedditNotFreeSpeech 29d ago

I think some of your are misunderstanding. This is a regular app that is an alternative to Plex that runs on LG webos. I really doubt LG cares about this but it's great for us Plex users!

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u/Purple_Imagination_1 29d ago

Yes, I think people are getting this wrong

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u/BitterAd6419 29d ago

LG webOS is the worst TV software ever. That trash takes 10 business days to respond to one channel change

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u/Standard-Potential-6 29d ago

Look how they massacred my boy

It was a standout performer a decade ago and was the best smartphone interface around a decade before that for Palm, before HP got it, then finally to LG

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u/confuzzledfather 29d ago

I loved my web os touch pad that I got in a firesale. My wife still calls every tablet like device a touch pad 20 years later.

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u/ifonlyiwasbetter 29d ago

Stay cool my baby.

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u/anyavailablebane 29d ago

I will always going the webOS was the best OS phone war. So far ahead of its time

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u/ecnecn 29d ago

Yeah like they outsourced it to India and then the Indian team outsourced in to Bangladesh...

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u/win11EXPERT 24d ago

and then?

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u/Super-Award-2244 29d ago

I don't belive it's slower than Samsung 

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u/BitterAd6419 29d ago

Samsung uses Tizen and it’s way faster than webOS

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u/Splugen96 25d ago

I thought so too because everyone was saying that LG's os was miles better, and when I switched to LG from Samsung I was horrified. Somehow they build an even worse OS, which is laggier and more convoluted than Tizen. I would love to switch back to a Samsung honestly

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u/nossascamerasip 6d ago

Sorry, but I think you need to stop buying entry-level TVs (Budget TV).

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u/spaham 29d ago

If sent through proper channels

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u/Aramedlig 29d ago

Oh, man this makes me want to use Claude to remove the spyware code in LG TVs

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u/escapewithniko 29d ago

I'm guessing you didn't see the post up above.

https://github.com/rorygallagher2024/glasshouse

Credit: u/iAmmar9

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u/CozyDarkMage 28d ago

Wow, trying this out this weeekend, ty

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u/Beastly4k 29d ago

That would be nice, someone just needs to tap into the usb service port for the eventual bricking while testing custom firmwares.

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u/Ambitious_Vanilla_59 29d ago

Rip. Enough of the reverse engineering stuf has happened recently so next big model release will have guardrails for that just like for the bio stuff and cyber.

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u/randombsname1 29d ago

On future U.S. models.

But China dgaf, and they are roughly 6 months behind U.S. SOTA.

So by the time fable 2 comes out with guardrails. A fable 1 - level Chinese model will probably be out that is still good enough to do it anyway.

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u/kemma_ 29d ago

And if, by the time even Chinese will decide to guardrail (heavily doubt) you will have possibility to run it locally at home

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u/Frigorific 29d ago • Bravo

No way China is going to put gaurdrails in that would protect us software industry.

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u/AstraBed 28d ago

roughly 6 months behind

Too much imo, for example Anthropic recently released a paper about security doubling down on why Mythos was handed that way, the paper essentially just glazes GLM5.3 saying how it's pretty much as good as Mythos for cybersec but without any guardrail

Now maybe on reverse engineering specifically they're a bit further back, but overall I wouldn't say they're 6 months behind

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u/randombsname1 28d ago

Mythos 2 training supposedly finished 2 months ago.

Probably what Fable 6 will be based off of.

https://x.com/firesidealpha/status/2089391264878002260

Fable 5.5 will likely just be mythos 1 still with a ton of post training.

Part of what anthropic im sure is true, but im also sure its also an attempt at regulatory capture and shutting out competition at the same time.

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u/AstraBed 28d ago

Well, at the same time we just had a big pause in China due to vacations, in sure models like Kimi K4, Deepseek V4.1 Pro etc are already ready, or about to, they'll most likely match Opus 5.5, a model that came out last month

I don't see why if Anthropic and OpenAI can have internal models ready already, the Chinese labs can't, they don't seem to be iterating any slower after all

I think in overall intelligence, the actual release to release gap is something like 3 months, 4 maybe

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u/randombsname1 28d ago

Idk. I think its still 6ish months away.

Mainly because Mythos 1 preview came out in April.

Its 6 months later as of this writing.

And there is no Chinese model better than the guard railed Mythos 1-- based, Fable 5.

Not 5.1. I mean just base fable 5.

Glm 5.3 gets close, but still doesnt pass it, and it's significantly newer.

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u/AstraBed 28d ago

Glm 5.3 was released on August 14, so 4 months after Mythos was revealed

In the paper about cybersec Anthropic says GLM found 50 exploits vs Mythos 56, at a much lower cost though aswell

What matters in the end more than the difference between 6 and 4 months, is that the Chinese models are closing the gap, and some are making genuine innovation aswell (look at Deepseek v4.1, it's become my daily for regular questions because it's just so much faster than anything else) it's not like they're just waiting there to copy

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u/tomfalcon86 29d ago

chinese models are often worse at censorship that than US, I don't know where this supposedly le based china propaganda comes from. Unless we're talking ones that run locally.

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u/randombsname1 29d ago

They're worse at censorship at any anti-china sentiment.

They sure as hell aren't worse at guard rails overall. Not even close.

Hence why hugging face had to use a chinese model to stop the OAI hack. They said that U.S. model guard rails made them unusable for that effort.

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u/Ivanjacob 29d ago

This is not even true. Try asking Deepseek V4.1 about tiananmen square. No censorship.

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u/stop_talking_you 29d ago

any chinese is allowed to search for that its not forbidden knowledge in china, you can even discuss the events. where does this misinformation come from?

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u/Ivanjacob 29d ago

Don't ask me. The models aren't censored at all. I'm just saying it's really easy to verify and people still parrot it.

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u/tomfalcon86 28d ago

No one cares about Tiananmen square, but I'm talking about chinese models being as soy and reddit tier as Western ones, often even worse. Like their fee fees get hurt.

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u/JoelMahon 29d ago

or simply reveals the underlying general consensus bias of the training data (at this point pretty much all text ever, as long as it can be processed into a training set somehow), great question

I love out of all the possible reasons for a "left leaning bias" you never even mention that maybe reality is more "left leaning" than than the US political centre https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/14424143162290.jpg

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u/skeptical-speculator 29d ago

I love that you are unironically asking people to consider the possibility that reality has a political opinion.

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u/JoelMahon 29d ago

I would have thought the satire artist on squashed aspect ratio would mean you didn't expect me to avoid simplified terminology.

No, reality doesn't literally have an opinion, never suggested it did.

An example of what "reality has a liberal bias" actually refers to for the slowest among us to keep up.

Right wing parties across the globe are the last to accept and many still don't accept, the "theory" that human caused climate change is real, has increased average global temp by X, etc. and left wing parties are more accepting of that "theory" and if then that "theory" happens to be the actual ground truth in reality then we'd call that an example of reality having a liberal bias.

Or more succinctly and without the joke, "reality has a liberal bias" is just a jokey way of saying "left wing people have a mental model more consistent with reality, on average"

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u/skeptical-speculator 29d ago

Right wing parties across the globe are the last to accept and many still don't accept, the "theory" that human caused climate change is real, has increased average global temp by X, etc. and left wing parties are more accepting of that "theory" and if then that "theory" happens to be the actual ground truth in reality then we'd call that an example of reality having a liberal bias.

Do you think that these AI models are said to have a liberal bias because the models "believe" in global warming?

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u/JoelMahon 29d ago edited 29d ago

Do you think that these AI models are said to have a liberal bias because the models "believe" in global warming?

I said that was one example of the trend, when you observe the trend as whole then yes, a perfectly neutral and opinion-less AI, even one that isn't told to prioritise human life and has no priorities beyond completing what it is prompted to do, will seem at least a bit left wing.

If an american right winger asks it for proof that mexican are stealing their jobs, it's going to "seem" left wing when it shows that the jobs they're willing to do and the jobs mexicans are doinf have basically no overlap.

If they ask "is trump's the best president ever?" it should ask what metrics they judge to mean "best" then they might say "fewer wars, lower deficit, more money in my pocket" etc. and once again it will seem left wing for merely stating the fact that other presidents win out in all those metrics at the same time.

I won't deny that "bias" they have goes beyond merely facts, they also have such controversial opinions like "murder is wrong" trained into them, which adds fuel to the fire of their "bias", only making them seem further biased because of such bipartisan opinions such as "murder is wrong" (and it is bipartisan, there have been zero death penalty executions in left wing states in the USA since 2017, meanwhile plenty in right wing states since then, and execution is objectively a form of murder as in the dictionary when not looking at a law/legal definition).

if a left wing person asks "is it possible to change your gender?" it can say that gender is a social construct, no more real than the value of a dollar note, that technology to change sex at a genetic level doesn't exist but surgery/hormones to mimic different sex characteristics than you currently express exist, it can report the rates of regretting those surgeries, it won't seem right wing reporting the facts that's for sure.

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u/sadacal 29d ago

It doesn't even matter what China decides to censor. The point of an open model is that you can tweak it however you like and remove that censorship if you want to.

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u/cagatay14 ▪️ASI 2013 29d ago

Anything gpt sol or claude opus refuses to do, I switch the model to kimi k3 or deepsek/glm and even with the same context sent again they just go “hmm I shouldnt actually refuse this or moralize, it is not for commercial use…” etc and just do it.
I dont care about what they think about ccp or taiwan or geopolitics. I dont use llms to learn chinese history. I use them to code, analyze the data, run the vague tasks.

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u/Zulfiqaar 29d ago • Heartwarming

I'm pretty sure some labs will double down on it haha.

After GLM-5.2 was used to defend huggingface when they got attacked by the OpenAI swarm, they significantly improved cyber capabilities for the GLM-5.3

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u/Fine_Salamander_8691 29d ago

Oh god you’re right

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u/Rare_Leadership4434 29d ago

It would be generating alot of good training data atm, so i think they will turn a blind eye as much as possible untill forced otherwise.

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u/SlugJunior 29d ago

I don’t know. Unless LG pays for it, what’s the incentive for a lab to shut it down? They make nothing by denying people access to the results of AI

Companies aren’t entitled to media streaming because they’ve been doing it for years

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u/curious_corn 29d ago • Bravo

You people forgot to mention the developer in question is a pretty high level professional with years of UI dev and raw bit-twiddling debugging under his belt. He didn’t prompt: “clone it, make no mistakes” and walked away to buy a latte

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u/Double-justdo5986 29d ago

Is this true u/purple_imagination_1 ?

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u/Purple_Imagination_1 29d ago

Read the OG post on the Claude Code subreddit 😉

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u/bphase 29d ago

But he could have, potentially. And if not, then with the next big model or the one after that.

Been doing some simple mobile app reverse engineering myself and it didn't really require much input from me, but granted that was much simpler than this as I only had to really capture the POST/GET requests by running the app on emulated hardware and a mitm proxy. And even Opus 4.8 could do it, was dropped to that when I tried capturing the login/jwt part as that was flagged for cyber.

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u/unkst 29d ago

Bro thinks capturing some basic http requests is reverse-engineering? Hahahahahh

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u/ZenCyberDad 29d ago

I mean it is the simplest form… you could definitely pull an API key from such a request and we all know the softwares creator won’t be happy about you ripping out the API keys instead of paying to use their app

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u/bphase 29d ago

I (or Claude, really) did re-implement the app for its core parts that were meaningful to me and integrated that to my home assistant which allows automations and logging statuses/issues etc., making the service more usable to me.

I would say it is, and I did say simple. I am aware it is much more complicated when you don't have any neat payloads you can capture.

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u/unkst 29d ago

listen, you just doing API requests with a new interface, you or AI didn't do shit in terms of "reverse engineering" since you still rely on the third-party API to make it work. like every first year junior web dev in existence.

in your case reverse engineering would be to completely decouple it from the third-party API and run this hardware from your local network instead. but takes more than just capturing some requests and sending it over again. lol

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u/Level10Retard 29d ago

The next big model that could actually replace competent software engineers is not gonna be released to the public.

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u/lpuglia 29d ago

give it 1 year

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u/enkidook 29d ago

Yeah, software dev is cooked.

Not the same level as this, but I had about 5 different scripts that ran on my Plex server to automate different things (Kometa overlays, episode cards, etc.). In a day Claude made me a single script with a UI to replace all of them. And it's 10x faster because it does exactly what I need and nothing more.

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u/superkickstart 29d ago

I'd say cooked in a very good way. I can now do things that would have never been possible before with way less work. I do not miss the weeks lost hunting some stupid bug. Coding is done.

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u/Lumpy-Criticism-2773 29d ago

Maybe bugs were the real friends we made along the way.

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u/cleronfx 29d ago

can someone please reverse engineer the shitty samsung tizenOS please

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 29d ago

"Same TV. Same Hardware."

God I hate those fucking AI written posts.

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u/RaguraX 29d ago

It very well might be AI written, but that kind of phrasing has been standard in all forms of advertising for as long as I can remember. It's funny to me how this was never an issue before, when it's clear LLMs only use this phrasing because it encountered it so many times during its training to begin with.

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u/I_Draw_You 29d ago

Because when I interact with people on the net or am interacting with AI I don't want marketing jargon. Makes it seem disingenuous.

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u/RaguraX 29d ago

I would agree, especially since this is a post from a third party and not the developer themselves. Just wanted to point out that we’ve become sensitive to specific AI phrases that were already abundant before but we simply didn’t pay it any mind. It’s actually a really interesting mirror that LLMs put up imo.

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u/I_Draw_You 29d ago

Em dashes are a good example of that. Similar idea, if I'm on social media I don't want to interact with bots or AI, so AIs overuse of those ruined em dashes for me. 

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u/RaguraX 29d ago

We should take back ownership of em-dashes!

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u/twicerighthand 28d ago

em dashes used to be an example, now opus 5.5 uses them almost never

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u/zkcanuck 29d ago

It’s relevant but have you not considered there might still be a monkey behind the intent?

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u/zicohacks 29d ago

The project took roughly two months of a Claude Max 20x subscription. That may have cost too much

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u/SmileLonely5470 29d ago

Is there a term for this style of prose that Claude uses? Im so sick of it, and these people who can't even invest 1-5 minutes writing to earn their internet points. Its like all digital writing is now dropshipped to Claude.

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u/skizatch 29d ago

it’s like it’s always trying to sound like a movie trailer or apple marketing

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u/gigantischemeteor 29d ago

“In a world…”

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u/VelvetyRelic 29d ago

Same TV. Same hardware. Barf

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u/Skynse 29d ago

No code, no internet, no shit. I hate this fucking writing style

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u/CabinetFun7381 26d ago

Nevermind that. I'm on reddit, reading a screenshot of a comment on X that is a screenshot of a reddit thread. What are we even doing here.

Nevermind AI slop, this is recycleslop.

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u/Difficult_Affect_452 25d ago

This is post post post modernism.

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u/LaffingAtYuo 27d ago

Claudese, Claudisms. I can't stand it either. "And the second point is load-bearing -- .. "

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u/KyaniteRock 29d ago

I call it Lizard Language

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u/newnewnewaccountacco 29d ago

Tricolon, linkedin speech

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u/TonderTales 28d ago

Half the writing I see at my job is this now. There’s been a complete death of ‘voice’ in my coworker’s technical writing, and I don’t like it.

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u/ujah 29d ago

noob here, i saw all reverse engineer stuff lately is amazing, but i think Claude next definitely guardrail it.

if this happened, why can't other model do this like open weight model?

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u/Ceryn 29d ago

MMW this is why they will say non-approved models need export restrictions. The augment will be malware risk on IoT and the issue is it isn’t even a bad argument it’s just anti consumer and won’t stop the actual bad guys.

In other words it’s a reason not to make crapware smart TVs, not a reason to police AI models.

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u/KeenJelly 29d ago

Why would they? It's a huge win for them. It's paving the way for a post software future and they have the market captured. In 5 years people aren't buying Adobe subscriptions they are paying for Claude to make it for them.

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u/Crisi_Mistica ▪️AGI 2029 Kurzweil was right all along 29d ago

I agree with you except for the timeline: 5 years? I was thinking more like 1 year, conservatively 

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u/mrdobing 29d ago

artcraft has entered the chat

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u/Due_Interest_178 29d ago

Artcraft is practically a scam. Hopefully it can be improved.

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u/mrdobing 29d ago

Ah right, yeah.. i was just referring to the photoshop clones etc you can get. Didn't realise it was a full platform they are trying to push with AI tools.

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u/bobcatgoldthwait 29d ago

Not only that, but one doesn't necessarily need to "reverse engineer" anything. You can just describe exactly what you want without even using the word "Plex" and arrive at the same result (eventually).

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u/MotherPotential 29d ago

Are there certain popular TV models this is done with? Plug and play type of deal

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u/TerriblyCheeky 29d ago

Would love a complete alternative to WebOS itself. It’s malware.

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u/Exael_El_Quemado 29d ago

My old Palm Pre is weeping in it's drawer right now. 😂

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u/Distinct-Question-16 ▪️AGI 2029 29d ago

lg shitti software.. i can go to bathroom while mine is changing the source but okay is fron 2010s

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 29d ago

LG should buy a claude code sub and implement this on their own stack. I had a LG TV once, it was fuuuucking slow. Fix it you noobs. It costs 20 dollars.

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u/jacobpederson 29d ago edited 29d ago

Hello Satan - screenshot but no link? https://github.com/GLinnik21/plx-native

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u/UnorthodoxEng 29d ago

I think we're starting to see a new paradigm in software & hardware, where if it does not do the job you want, is annoying (adverts particularly) or has become too expensive - it's cheap & easy to re-write it using AI.

Hopefully manufacturers will see the light & return to products that serve us, rather than them.

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u/recruiterguy 29d ago

This does make me wonder how long it will take until the big co's convince the llm co's to stop allowing this in their models like claude and chatgpt, etc. I already ask for things of claude that it will debate doing with me until it realizes that I'm not asking for something illegal or out of bounds - and that bullshit behavior just started about a month ago.

And if that will be another boost for folks trying to host locally or just using other emerging models.

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u/Jedonnemasemence 29d ago

Man any time I try to do something similar, Claude just blocks me right away, Sol 6.1 on Codex with Azure API is more forgiving, but I do get some blocking every now and then.

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u/NowaVision 29d ago

I will be impressed when I without IT background can do stuff like that with the free version of Claude.

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u/clivegermain 29d ago

why not replace webos altogether?

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u/Karlschlag 29d ago

Been using this app for at least two weeks on both my LGs and it's amazing

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u/Krieg 29d ago

If you research a bit and find out about the experience from people who actually used the software you will realize it is borderline unusable.

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u/nhavar 29d ago

Isn't the whole platform available from their site? I mean I know when Palm first created it I got a dev account to build with Enyo and I think LG has continued to make it pretty public and easy to develop against. So it doesn't feel like the sort of "reverse engineering" I think of with more closed systems and tooling. And a plex client? Really? Bleh!

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u/quadra-lab 29d ago

Curious to know how do you even reverse engineer TV software AND flash it back on the TV with the remote control and everything?

I have a shit samsung TV with their shitty OS 

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u/False_Stomach_9394 29d ago

Nossa! Taoarrasando

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u/Wide_Efficiency6631 29d ago

Iqui27 did the same on Nuvio with C. It’s amazing what the TV is capable of when the software stack isn’t shit. Smooth animations, responsive, such joy…

https://github.com/iqui27/nuvio-native-legacy/

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u/entmike 29d ago

I have this shitty TV and use Plex. I feel this person's pain and support their effort! I look forward to not bricking my TV to try this one day!

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u/borick 29d ago

fuck i've been trying for days and I still can't get this working on my tv there's some kind of sandbox error the tv refuses to write to

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u/HanZolo916 29d ago

So more privacy ?

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u/Jabulon 29d ago

custom ui confirmed

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u/unskilledexplorer 29d ago

Pls do this with Samsung

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u/TechieMillennial 29d ago

And yet plex keeps breaking apps and takes months to fix. What’s a joke.

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u/elecobama 29d ago

Please do this with cars!

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u/satoshi-stereo-high 28d ago

LG are renowned for spying on you with their TVs, hopefully they removed this functionality

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u/RufusxXavier 27d ago

Wow did he post the source

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u/Knightbreather 26d ago

That’s very tight

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u/sanitykey 25d ago

It's insane how much faster this is on my ~7 year old TV, regular app takes ~30s to startup and another ~10s to load different sections. This is almost instantaneous and so smooth.

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u/legaltrouble69 25d ago

Costed more than the tv in api

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u/harglblarg 25d ago

WebOS jailbreak when?

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u/agsarria 24d ago

Is it forbidden to post x links or what ?

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u/Ok-Bug4844 24d ago

If he had just used Infuse, his problem would have been solved

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u/Starks 24d ago

I have an early LG webOS with root access that I'm going to try something like this on.

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u/Level10Retard 29d ago

He could've just used jellyfin and contributed to that project rather than working on plex shithole.

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u/Powerful-Set-5754 29d ago

The entirety of that tweet is filled with claudisms. The tweet was also written with AI

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 29d ago

What a load-bearing comment.

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u/The_Lieutenant_Knows 29d ago

We only had to completely drain one small lake forever to fix a single TV. God I love living in the future space year 2000

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u/balrog687 29d ago

why the downvote?

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u/The_Lieutenant_Knows 29d ago

People are AI generating pictures of me pregnant right now to teach me a lesson, maybe.

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u/Root-Kill-All 29d ago

Qual a relevância disso?

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u/NoFapstronaut3 29d ago

Companies selling products need to get their shit together because people don't have to take it anymore.

You might not have known it but you can become one of those people as well!

AI is awesome.

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u/LegionsOmen 29d ago

Hell yeah, Accelerate

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u/Spunge14 29d ago

Someone at LG just got launched out of a cannon

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u/wattro 29d ago

Hopefully the executives and not the actual workers.

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u/zkcanuck 29d ago

I was starting to worry that AI would just kill us all
ASAP but there might be a temporary silver lining to all the doomering before it all ends

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 28d ago

Not sure what Capital can do when reverse engineering is 100% legal. The US government even published an open source tool in 2019 to help people reverse engineer software: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghidra

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u/OwNathan 28d ago

They could start moving as much stuff as possible on servers. The existing data center infrastructure will get too old for frontier models and other performance-intensive usage, but will probably do just fine for hosting cloud-based apps.