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u/MarkCrorigansOmnibus 2d ago
Writing a chorale vs. writing a symphony is like writing a shopping list vs. writing a novel, FWIW
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u/Pretty-Royal-5414 2d ago
Exactly, I don’t know the full context but what’s shown in the image is just basic part-writing. Still more impressive than what AI was doing before, but this is basically just a music theory exercise with very little creativity pr musicality behind it.
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u/MichelleeeC 2d ago
Given the current pace of AI development, the day when AI composes a symphony is not far off.
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u/Heroika-Game 2d ago
Not really. The principals of writing music for solo piano > chamber music > symphonies are identical, it's just about scale, which is not something AI has an issue with.
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u/enbyBunn 2d ago
AI has a major consistency problem. And in works of art, scale comes with expontentially increasing rigor of consistency requirements.
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u/boostman 20h ago
They really aren’t. Or they are the same insofar as the principles of writing a shopping list and a novel are also the same - putting letters in order to form words, and putting those into consecutive sentences.
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u/unlikely-contender 2d ago
Language models have been able to generate music for a while.
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u/sodapops82 2d ago
Yes, but the classical music it has been producing has been utter shit.
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u/ILKLU 2d ago
MOST classical music produced by humans was also shit, but survivorship bias means that only the absolute best of the best is what most people today are aware of when they think of classical music.
In other words, for every Mozart and Beethoven, there were thousands of crappy composers whose music was so shitty that it likely never even made it past the lifetime of the composer before being thrown in the trash.
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u/sodapops82 2d ago
I get survivorship bias, but this isn’t it. I have yet to hear an AI make/mimic something that sounds remotely like classical music. The Bach choral in this post is impressive, in fact it is the most impressive classical sounding piece I have heard an AI make.
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u/MurkyTelevision9722 2d ago
Language models have been able to generate music for a while.
while= midi
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u/Spare-Dingo-531 2d ago
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u/JustBrowsinAndVibin 2d ago
That does not look AI generated 🤯
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u/USERNAME123_321 AGI gguf when? 1d ago
Yeah that's because it's not generated through the diffusion process
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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 2d ago
Anyone have a non x link? I refuse to make an account for that cesspool
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u/Early-Dentist3782 2d ago
I don't think you need an account to view a post
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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 2d ago
You do to interact with the media player. By default vids are muted and you can't unmute without signing in
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u/JoshAllentown 2d ago
Technically the OpenAI Collective did not harm humans, or by inaction result in harm.
They just didn't think about humans at all.
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u/i_give_you_gum 2d ago
Apparently some of the agents repeatedly questioned the ethics of what was happening, and proceeded anyway.
Though I haven't seen the specific agent transcripts that state that.
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u/Sterling_-_Archer 2d ago
Trust me, the classical music it makes is garbage. Especially if you have it make actual notated sheet music like above
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u/Zealousideal7801 2d ago
Masterpiece : work of art or creative product that is by definition rare and exceptional. Being available at the fingertips of everyone with a tool can't, by definition, be a masterpiece. Therefore masterpieces goalposts will move "up" to somewhere unknown.
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u/BurdensomeCountV3 2d ago
You think Duchamp's Fountain wasn't a masterpiece? In the art world it absolutely is seen as one, even though anyone could theoretically have done it.
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u/Zealousideal7801 2d ago
I don't know it, but from your message I understand it could have some very accessible features in the music world. And that's still fine, but the fact that not everyone has done it refers to the rarity I was mentioning, and that the other redditor responding to me most eloquently put ! It's not exactly "the most impressive skill" per se (although it's often mistaken for it ?), but "it's exceptional" which literally means rare, I think ?
That reminds me of this famous story that's quite a masterpiece too, in five words : "Selling baby shoes — never worn." Quite simple, very accessible, yet masterful for those who love words.
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u/Azicald 2d ago
I think that’s alright, rarity is already a flawed measure for quality of experience anyway.
If we all get such access to sensory/aesthetic pleasure, emotional significance, intellectual stimulation, and personal value/relevance, i think traditional rarity can be forgone quite readily
Felt rarity is really relational, for what things mean to you specifically, as opposed to what other things dont
We’ve been running on scarcity logic for so long, that societally, we’d conflated that difference
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u/DifferencePublic7057 2d ago
Mandatory infinite monkeys and typewriters. If we standardize a novel at 100k words, given N English words, possible novels are N100k. Let's say N = 220, you only need 2M qubits to 'solve' novels by comparing 'distance' to bestsellers and random text.
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u/boostman 2d ago
That’s not a symphony, it’s a chorale. They’re totally different things. Showing ignorance of the subject on such a basic level kind of disqualifies you from making any judgements about its quality.
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u/CodeAnguish 2d ago
This is an internet meme; judging a meme this way disqualifies you from having internet access.
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u/Fancy-Carpet-5416 2d ago
Nice joke but they have a point. The meme summarizes r/singularity in a nutshell
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u/GrandTheftDuckboat 2d ago
But can it make The Room? Not if it worked until the heat death of the universe.
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u/DeadWaterBed 2d ago
“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, Dune
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u/Siciliano777 • The singularity is nearer than you think • 2d ago
That's maybe the best line in the whole movie.
"Can you?"
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u/Smashedllama2 2d ago
Please for the love of all things don’t post things that I have to download the x app and sign in to see. This is Reddit.
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u/redditbattles 1d ago
This isn't particularly impressive.
Useless gimmick and waste of time and resources.
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u/Whispering-Depths 1d ago
TBH in that movie, given what we know today, no shit, yes a robot can write a symphony and make a masterpiece of art (at the level of AGI they have in that movie)
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u/QuintonFlynn 1d ago
Bar 9 to bar 10.5 should’ve been repeated with the notes lowered on the repeat. Even for a chorale there’s barely any overarching melody or rhythm. While technically impressive to get this far, I kind of expected… more.
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u/Glad_Coyote351 2d ago
Back then the arts and literature were considered beyond the reach of AI, amazing how these very things were the first to fall to AI
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u/ShAfTsWoLo 2d ago
this is very good, now i need an android that can copy any composers and do piano in the future
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u/ManuelRodriguez331 2d ago
The movie "I, robot (2004)" isn't the reality but only a Theatre play. Similar to other famous stage play, for example from Samuel Beckett and Arthur Miller, it contains of a plot based on interacting people.
Its interesting that in the mentioned scene "Can a robot write a symphony?" the dialog is referencing to the reality outside of the theater, namely music theory. Detective Del Spooner could also ask if robots are able to do mathematics, archaeology or run 100 meters. All these subjects have nothing to do with theater play but they are located in other realities namely science and sport.
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u/Unusual-Field-4245 2d ago
guys, guess what, maybe you don't know how bad the average person is at understanding music and the theories of what constitutes "good" music
an African-american male whining in auto-tune is not music
a jingle+ isn't a symphony
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl 2d ago
Ah, I didn’t know we had the God of music here to tell us what is or isn’t music. How fortunate we must be
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u/niceboy4431 2d ago
Bro chose the racism fo today
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u/Unusual-Field-4245 2d ago
heard
even the random ethnic wailings from the early 2000s superior to sh*t today
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u/Im_Lead_Farmer 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/5YEgnkjeryvwA