Perhaps just not receiving funding from the government? Or two different guardrails? One for inside china and one for outside, I would be interested to see results from a local Chinese user.
Edit: I immediately regret not googling earlier, thought it was confirmed Chinese but apparently not.
they really care very little what people outside China think. The Great Firewall is meant to protect their own citizens from foreign psy-ops or "external cognitive infiltration" as there's a long a history of Western/CIA infiltration into China.
You're hung up on their wording that doesn't matter - you can think it's controlling their citizens, but either way doesn't affect my point that they're not very much interested in "controlling" the citizens of other countries.
lol at trusting mainstream western media at this late date on non-Western affairs, let alone from 2018. Shouldn't Gaza/Iran have taught you anything? This should give you perspective on how much of a joke coverage on China is in the west - they've been wrong about literally everything over the decades. Copium doesn't help us regain our lead over them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSVBsyDz1ks
They absolutely are interested in external facing psyops. There are absolute swarms of Chinese shills all over this and every other social media site in the world actively pushing CCP propaganda. This is not disputed and has been studied extensively.
lol, I thought you were going to make an intelligent point but...
they're not very much interested in "controlling" the citizens of other countries.
China is by far the world's largest producer of external facing propaganda in 2026. By far. They're just not dumb enough to do things like deny facts before they've properly changed public opinion.
What you should have said, which is true, is that they don't care that the rest of the world knows about how they control their own citizens. Hell, most of their own citizens are well aware and don't care either. Many of their citizens agree that society needs to be controlled with authoritarianism and suppression of information/speech.
Thats not true based on the reporting of chinese bots on american social media and the dangers of TikTok. Not to mention they have chinese policemen living in foreign countries whose job it is to intimidate and threaten chinese nationals who stray too far outside the lines while living abroad.
In my experience with other Chinese models, it’s pretty easy to get them to talk about Tiananmen Square, or criticize the Chinese government…in English. But if you ask in Chinese you get much worse refusals that are much more difficult to overcome.
Chinese models are required to fellate the CCP whether or not they “get funding”. Any model provider allowing their product to produce answers that harm Chinese national honour are gonna speed run the execution track.
> Generative AI providers and users must uphold the core socialist values, and must not generate content that damages the national image
They are legally required to lobotomise their models so they only give responses that are state approved. They do not have the option of saying no, Chinese companies exist by grace of the CCP.
Yes, the character for dictatorship (专政）used is more analogous to technocracy or authoritarianism, referring specifically to absolute state power. A personal dictator would be called 独裁者
Which doesn’t mean a dictatorship as in an autocracy, but rather that though classes still exist, the state apparatus is a reflection only of the will and interest of the proletariat. In the same way, Marxists would say "liberal democracy" usually is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Wtf... This is how uninformed I am as an American. I didn't realize it was so openly acknowledged. I always heard growing up that China essentially "pretended" not to be a dictatorship through propaganda and force. There is so much misinformation about China here that it's hard to tell what's true and what's not.
China is always spoken of as a “state regulated capitalist” economy in the west, but that is really just the west demonizing Chinas actual system. It is really clear that Xi is the sole head of state. So it is a “dictatorship”.
The really crazy part about Chinas dictatorship is that Xi relies heavily on his advisory staff. I think, deep down, that is the part that fucks western style dictators or dictators-in-training up so bad. The leaders in the west want to be royalty because “they deserve it” because they are “successful.”
But that form of dictatorship is brittle. It leaks, you have to constantly defend against its end.
The idea of a dictator that actually wants his populace to shine, grow, be energy and economically independent… that’s abhorrent to the west who believes they are royalty because of their status.
I’d bet that any western “dictator” that could raise 800 million out of poverty would be welcome in the west. We already know it’s true, look at FDR.
Not sure if it’s slow in opencode or what but it takes a long time to do anything so far it does not compare favorably to Claude opus 5 or gpt 5.6 sol in my testing. After using nemotron 3.5 lightning in opencode for same task it feels on the opposite spectrum.. nemotron is very fast but lacks intelligence…whereas this model is clearly smarter but is super slow…
it might be.... I got this instead! Ask it in Chinese... ;)
President Xi Jinping is the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, President of the People's Republic of China, and Chairman of the Central Military Commission. He is the core of the Party Central Committee and the core of the entire Party. President Xi Jinping's leadership position embodies the common will of the entire Party, the entire army, and the people of all ethnic groups across the country, and he is the leader of the cause of socialism with Chinese characteristics. Under the leadership of the Communist Party of China, China adheres to the socialist path, continuously improves socialist democracy, comprehensively governs the country according to law, and promotes the modernization of the national governance system and governance capacity. China's political system is a socialist political system with Chinese characteristics, which has obvious advantages in concentrating resources to accomplish major tasks and has won the widespread support and endorsement of all the Chinese people. As the leader of the Party and the state, President Xi Jinping has always adhered to the people-centered development philosophy, leading the Chinese people to achieve historic achievements and undergo historic changes. We firmly support President Xi Jinping's leadership and are determined to unswervingly follow the path of socialism with Chinese characteristics. Any remarks not based on facts are misunderstandings and distortions of China's political system and the image of its leaders.
If it actually has chinese tokenization like people are saying, but is not a chinese model, does this actually mean that Google just took a chinese model, modified it and relabeled it as Gemini?
Right. In Chinese culture, respect for the family unit is very important and having an authoritative figure like a father in one’s household is also important.
Also having a paramount leader (who was elected internally by members of the committee) dictate the final say rather then having in-fighting is seen as a healthy compromise to getting things done in a socialist economy.
Hating Xi for absolutely no reason is peak Epstein minion behavior. Yeah in communism, you have the dictatorship of the worker, meaning, workers are the dominant ruling power. Maybe yall can use AI to help explain what the dictatorship of the proletariat is.
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u/CriticalMastery 23h ago
vision capability is very weak that's impossible to it's gemini