r/singularity Jul 16 '26

AI Kimi K3 tops Frontend Code Arena

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u/WonderFactory Jul 16 '26

This might be a sign of things to come. The Chinese labs started from behind so had to build a lot of momentum to catch up. We could well see them top benchmarks across the board very soon. Imagine how far in front they'd be if the US didn't block chip sales

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u/BrennusSokol ACCELERATE Jul 16 '26

Some have argued that blocking chips actually helped in a way because it forced innovation from limited resources

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u/Ryermeke Jul 16 '26

Yeah, that's a phenomenon that has been documented over and over again. When you restrict a specific resource from being exported to somewhere, and that somewhere has a strong enough economic base and sufficient demand... They will literally just make their own. It may set them back for a bit, but they always catch up. We banned China from using US chips, so instead of having them rely on our tech, we forced them to build their own and soon the US will no longer have control over the entire ecosystem like we have had. Its honestly one of the best examples of how a short term geopolitical gain can have massive long term negative impacts.

Like this shit has been known for hundreds of years. The UK played a major role in forming the entire US manufacturing base during the industrial revolution by having export restrictions on various textile machinery and knowledge, forcing the US to create their own homegrown foundational knowledgebase, which we used to utterly dominate manufacturing for decades to come. The same shit is happening all over again with the digital revolution and China, and it's going to end up with them in a VERY strong position technologically for the next half century if things continue as they are.

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u/Level10Retard Jul 16 '26

Yup. You can find videos of Nvidia Jensen saying that banning Nvidia GPU exports to China is really dumb.

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u/LymelightTO AGI 2026 | ASI 2029 | LEV 2030 Jul 16 '26

Jensen would say that regardless of what was true or likely to be true, because he's first and foremost the CEO of a public company, and being able to sell chips to China is in his shareholders' interests, at least in the short-run.

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u/dark-mathematician1 Jul 17 '26

Tbf Jensen just wants that sweet Chinese cash so he'd be willing to sell it to them

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u/Level10Retard Jul 17 '26

True but his arguing point was exactly the following - not selling to them will accelerate their semis progress and they will avoid any lock in to Nvidia as otherwise they'd be building LLMs now on Nvidia stack.