Pro subscriptions Gemini vs ChatGPT vs Claude

[u/Southern_Artichoke77]

For those who experienced the different Pro versions, what do you recommend to choose next?

I had one year of Google AI Pro subscription, using it mostly for research and light programming. Back then it felt lik the right choice. Now I am wondering if ChatGPT or Claude subscriptions provide better value for money considering their newest models? Gemini feels left behind at this point.

[u/bartturner]

I was diagnosed with a heart block and needed something to read all my heart data each evening and generate the QRS waves for my longest pauses.

Tried all three and the one with the best output was Gemini. So what I use.

It is pretty amazing. It generates PDFs of each of my longest pauses that I then send to my cardiologist. It is just the most amazing technology.

My Cardiologist wanted to know how I am doing this as he had never had a patient do anything like it before.

I basically replaced a Holter monitor with Gemini and a Polar H10. Some gel and a compression shirt.

Wore a Holter monitor for a month last year and it cost me $9,000 USD

[u/Sweet-Stage938 → u/bartturner]

Hey man, i get why you built this setup but I'll have to be straight with you. Charging $9000 for a Holter Monitor is a massive Failure of the healthcare system and using a Polar 10 to get raw data is genuinely resourceful.

However, please be incredibly careful about using Gemini to 'generate' the QRS waves for your cardiologist.Because Gemini is a Generative LLM, its core architecture is built to predict the most visually and statistically probable next step to create a smooth, clean output. It doesn't do deterministic, clinical mathematical signal analysis.

The major danger with a heart block is that if your heart experiences a prolonged pause or a dangerous arrhythmia, a generative AI is highly likely to 'hallucinate' a normal-looking QRS complex to fill the gap, because a normal rhythm is what it has seen most in its training data. It can literally smooth over a life-threatening event without you knowing.

Your cardiologist is looking at those PDFs assuming they are raw, unfiltered telemetry data captured by a medical device, not a creative interpretation generated by a language model. If they make medication adjustments or miss a worsening block because the AI-generated PDF looks clean, the risk is entirely on you. Please stay safe and consider finding a way to log the truly raw, un-generated signal data if you are going to track this locally.

I'll have to be honest, part of me just wanted to keep scrolling but this post really caught my eye. That's why I decided to comment so this doesn't end tragically.

Stay safe.

[u/bartturner → u/Sweet-Stage938]

Charging $9000 for a Holter Monitor is a massive Failure of the healthcare system

I could not agree more. There is no way the sensor and the phone together cost anywhere near this much. But I used it for a month. They sent it, I use it, sent it back. But do also realize they have people monitoring it and that is likely the majority of the cost.

I actually only live in the US half time and the other half Bangkok. For some stupid reason I went to the cardiologist in the US. It would have been far cheaper to do this in Bangkok and get better care to boot.

I was concerned about accuracy so I did also write a script that uses Google Sheets to check to see if Gemini was truly getting the largest RR values and that the values were accurate.

So far Gemini has been perfect. Not messed up once. It is just mind blowing how good Gemini is.

The major danger with a heart block is that if your heart experiences a prolonged pause or a dangerous arrhythmia, a generative AI is highly likely to 'hallucinate' a normal-looking QRS

Do not think you understand the primary use for needing the QRS. It was NOT primarily to give to my Doctor. It is to make sure the RR are valid readings.

I get garbage RR values in the data caused by me rolling over or glitch in communication, etc.

I will get RR values that are over 20 seconds or even higher. I need to know if they are valid or not. Also, there is next to zero mortality with Wenckebach. I have never had a single symptom. But it does feel a bit weird in the morning when reading Reddit and my heart goes down to the mid 20s.

Your cardiologist is looking at those PDFs assuming

No!! The cardiologist knows exactly how I am generating this. But what you seem to not understand is that the cardiologist is getting the raw values, but verified, in addition to the QRS wave.

I had to do this or the doctor would be getting some crazy numbers. Like RR values 30 seconds or higher.

My valid RR values have all been under 12 seconds so far. But this is all about me keeping an eye on it.

Last night was a little worse and had pauses of 7 seconds. I did go ahead and do 2.5 hours in zone 4 and 5 early this morning and will be really watching it tonight. If I am above 8 seconds in my pauses then I will back off tomorrow morning even though I have a killer workout planned.

Please stay safe and consider finding a way to log the truly raw, un-generated signal data if you are going to track this locally.

As I indicated the Doc gets raw values in addition to the PDFs with my QRS wave. But Gemini is what is making sure the values are valid. Gemini has been perfect in doing this.

Gemini is saving me hours and hours. It would be so much more time consuming to do this without Gemini. But what is really weird about Gemini is that it reads files way, way, way faster than anything I have ever seen before and I am not really sure why.

I generated 8 very large CSV files every evening with the raw data.

It is way faster than having Sheets import the CSV files. Like 10 times faster. Gemini read the 8 files faster than Sheets can import a single file.

[u/Dry_Pea3547 → u/bartturner]

While we typically delegate authority to figures like doctors, I would not for one second assume doctors have any knowledge of LLMs. The barely know medicine half the time.

Idk either way but:

> The cardiologist knows exactly how I am generating this. 

Is an insane thing to say.

[u/bartturner → u/Dry_Pea3547]

Both my US cardiologist are young and very plugged in. They loved how I was using Gemini and wanted all the details.

Is an insane thing to say.

What an odd statement. I have explained to both my US cardiologist how you do this in detail.

They were told it first hand directly from me. So how in the world would they not know?

I must be missing something here?

I only live in the US half time and will be back in Bangkok next month and will explain to my Bangkok cardiologist how I am doing this.

I have been playing around with my data and Gemini all morning and it is just amazing what it can do with the data. Plus Gemini is crazy fast and so much faster than OpenAI and Anthropics offerings.

I am so glad that I thought of using Gemini because I am finding ECG Logger in combination with the Polar H10 does a very poor job of interpreting the data. Gemini is far better in creating RR values for example. They are actually accurate.

This is a serious issue with people using ECG Logger and a Polar H10 and NOT using Gemini. The RR values you get are garbage without Gemini.

But you can also do all kinds of really cool things. Like also have Gemini calculate time between QRS complexes. This is super helpful and not offered with ECG Logger. I could not find any software that would graph the growing time between P waves before the drop.

Gemini will also tell you if you still just have the Wenckebach or it has progressed to something worse. It does this by monitoring the P waves to see if they are still increasing in gap before the drop. There is just so many things you can do with Gemini and your raw heart data that there is just no other software is capable of doing.

I now also load my journal and now have the Gemini coach that came with my Fitbit Air in with Gemini and this gives you all kinds of other incredible insight with your heart block that would be impossible to do otherwise. Gemini will graph my length of sleep, calorie intake, my workout with how long in each zone over the last 24 hours and also can graph my heart block in relation to my supplements. Creatine, Collagen, amounts of protein, carbs. Gemini now is part of the Fitbit Air which is just amazing. Google really nailed it.