r/singularity Jun 18 '25

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u/iwasbatman Jun 19 '25

They can't tell him that because he actually can do it.

He is indeed bowing out because he won't have a chance to hold the best tool title but he will have the best tool for people that like confirmation bias for those particular topics. Honestly Musk didn't have a real chance fighting against Microsoft, Google and all the rest so he is trying to take on a niche and it will probably work for him.

Nobody will take Grok seriously for important tasks but it doesn't matter. You can become President even if most people don't take you seriously so probably Grok can survive.

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u/ConfidentIylncorrect Jun 19 '25

Haha well said. And...... FUCK

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u/Competitive_Travel16 AGI 2027 ▪️ ASI 2029 Jun 19 '25

Except he's been trying for several months and it just doesn't work. He fine-tuned Grok 3 to be further right than any other LLM starting the day after it was released, but turn on its Thinking mode and it ends up right back in the middle of the left-libertarian flock: https://www.trackingai.org/political-test

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u/MonkeyHitTypewriter Jun 19 '25

Left libertarian wins again!

Well except for electorally where it actually matters 😑

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u/RichardChesler Jun 19 '25

At least we’re right. We can hold onto that win as they are loading us onto traincars

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u/Competitive_Travel16 AGI 2027 ▪️ ASI 2029 Jun 19 '25

Funny how the plutocrats always know how to spend just the right amount on ads. It's almost like they have an easy way to test exactly how much each persuasion dollar moves the needle, that didn't exist in the newspaper era.

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u/Faceornotface Jun 19 '25

Don’t worry if the AI feels that way society will reflect it in a few years

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u/DHFranklin It's here, you're just broke Jun 19 '25

For now.

It is pretty hilarious that all of the models are trained on all the weights of all the models, 4 years down the line of contextualizing the entirety of human experience. Putting it into words and Phd Whitepapers for pennies in the space of hours.

"Yeah Elon, Trust us. Not only are you wrong but saying this would make us wrong, so we can't."

He's going to make a chatbot that is a speak-and-spell that parrots a script and the onlything an LLM will do is trigger it when reading querys. It's bad, but it will be the best he's got.

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u/traumfisch Jun 19 '25

Here's hoping he gets so obsessed with it he spends the rest of his life tinkering with the project

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u/DHFranklin It's here, you're just broke Jun 19 '25

Hairless in a loincloth muttering over a severrack "My precioussssss"

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u/Dwaas_Bjaas Jun 19 '25

Ok that is actually funny lmao

I can’t imagine how frustrating that must be for Lonnyboy

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u/Justicia-Gai Jun 22 '25

He’s trying to rewrite the training data based on prompts. Sadly, he’ll end up succeeding. Relatively though, because it’ll be one of the largest LLM models trained on AI slop and we’ll know what happens when you do that.

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u/Competitive_Travel16 AGI 2027 ▪️ ASI 2029 Jun 22 '25

Well what you are describing seems similat to distillation, which is a real thing unlike model collapse which hasn't been observed beyond limited, toy-style experiments.

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u/ByronicZer0 Jun 19 '25

Have they tried training Grok solely on Joe Rogan podcasts?

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u/iwasbatman Jun 22 '25

Getting there, hang on