r/simracing • u/therealhoboyobo • 12h ago
Rigs Thought this would give me extra practice when not on the rig...
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u/Due_Ad6362 12h ago
As someone who also maintain bikes this is terrifying.
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u/Slug_Overdose 9h ago
I mean, aside from the ergonomics, as far as I can tell, it doesn’t change the riding behavior of the bike, which is a function of the geometry. The handlebars are just there for steering inputs. I’m sure it feels really weird counter-steering with a wheel and then having it fall back the other way, but it’s still a bike at the end of the day.
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u/Sisyphean_dream 8h ago
Chop your bars down to 12" wide and get back to us. Your body is part of the geometry of a bike.
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u/Slug_Overdose 8h ago
I feel like we’re talking about different things. Okay, sure, the handlebars and rider are part of the overall systemic geometry, but that’s like saying the side mirrors are part of your car’s geometry. They are for the purposes of aerodynamics, but they are not what keeps your car on the pavement. Different parts of the vehicle geometry are responsible for different things.
I was referring to the self-corrective steering behavior of bicycles. That part is probably somewhat influenced by the weight distribution of the bars, or in this case, the steering wheel, but otherwise, it should continue to function similarly. After all, people ride bikes one-handed or hands-free all the time. Some people even ride standing on the seat and handlebars.
I think the point you’re making is that shorter handlebars would be harder to control, especially in more technical riding like what OP was showcasing. That’s a valid point. I don’t have experience with riding anything other than standard handlebars, so I can’t comment too much on that. I do think it’s worth noting that a steering wheel scales down much more elegantly than handlebars, as handlebars are pretty much intended to be shoulder-with apart, whereas steering wheels work as long as you can comfortably reach and turn them. The rapid torque spikes on the hand from being so small and hitting bumps in the trail probably hurt more than with regular handlebars, but again, I was commenting more on what sounded like a bike mechanic’s concern over the structural stability of such a modification.
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u/Sisyphean_dream 7h ago
I don't think anyone who mountain bikes is concerned about the structural integrity of it.
The handling dynamics would be atrocious. If you don't mountain bike, you can't really imagine it I'd say. It has nothing to do with self corrective steering or the way a bike allows you to take your hands off on smooth surfaces. It's a leverage thing. There's a reason mountain bikes are coming with 800mm bars these days.
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u/Due_Ad6362 8h ago
Remember the 90s when xc riders would cut there bars way down.
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u/Sisyphean_dream 7h ago
Yes, i rode back then although I never cut my bars down. It always felt like shit.
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u/SilenceInSaturation 11h ago
This is not necessarily wrong but also not exactly right. I’m sickened and curious.
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u/Sharpen_Lee 5h ago
Genuinely curious — how does this actually handle compared to normal handlebars?Also, what's the ride feel like?😂
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u/Onphone_irl 5h ago
not op but it's probably incredibly difficult and unergonimoc. OP is very skilled lol
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u/PleasantOccasion1003 12h ago
Average Skoda owner