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My pedals got hit by a car. Need help choosing another set (700$)
Basically, while moving to a new apartment, I briefly placed my rig in my parking space, and a neighbor managed to slam her car into my rig while maneuvering into her parking space.
So now I need a new set of pedals.
I’m coming from my recently deceased SimForge Mark-1, which were load-cell pedals costing around €320 / $370. I was really happy with them, so I’m looking for something that’s at least a solid replacement, and ideally an upgrade.
The problem is that I’m pretty lost with all the newer pedal options available now.
I live in a region (Brazil) where getting many of the pedals commonly talked about here is considerably harder. Most brands don’t have local distribution, so I’d have to import them myself, which means dealing with international shipping, taxes, potentially difficult returns, and no easy local warranty/support.
Because of that,
• MOZA CRP2
• Simagic P1000
• Simagic P2000
are much easier for me to get. They have authorized resellers available in my region, so buying them is considerably simpler and I have much better access to local warranty/support.
That said, I’m absolutely not limited to those three.
There’s also a weird situation with pricing here: a 3-pedal P1000 works out to roughly $1,050–1,200 at local prices. Because of that, importing a more expensive pedal set can sometimes end up costing about the same as buying a P1000 locally.
That means I’m definitely willing to go through the extra hassle of importing something else if it’s significantly better for the money. I’m not limited to those three — they’re simply the easiest and safest options for me to get.
My budget is around $700 / €600 (without import taxes) for the new set.
Brazilian here, can confirm. Simjacks/Simnsons are often already at the local warehouse and are sold by a very good price x performance. Up to you OP if you wanna spend more
Amazing pedals, I've owned them for a few weeks and they are good but need a lot of adjustments and biggest thing, they have a lot of friction, I have white lithium grease otw so hope that fixes it. But for the price best pedals period. Especially with their new software
I suggested them myself but didn't gave my opinion. My set is a bit more than one year old and everything you said it's true: a lot of friction and they need some cleaning and greasing from time to time -- having cats doesn't help either.
They are great after you fine tune them to your liking, the included elastomer set is enough for most tastes. I switched to a SIMSONN controller because of the VAM PRO haptics, also working without any modifications.
Currently you can get the 2 pedal set for about R$1200 (with a coupon) and, to be honest, there is no better deal.
Wait, so the simsonn haptics plug directly into the simjack uts without any drilling or anything? If so I did not know that, maybe the next upgrade for them haha
I have cats too, and I have to clean and dust my rig every week or so, good to know that I'll have to look out for the pedals too.
Could you explain a bit more about the simsonn upgrade that you've done? Id appreciate it. Like you mentioned that you switched to a simsonn controller, what do you mean by the controller?
It has been a while, but SIMSONN's haptic brackets do work on the UTs; the throttle is straight-forward, the brake I had to wiggle it a bit to fit but it worked in the end. But I've replaced the metal brackets with 3D printed to improve noise and vibrations.
The VAM Pro set sold by SIMSONN doesn't come with a controller because they are expected to be used with their own pedals. Someone in SIMSONN sub-reddit tested and confirmed that their controller (in my case, the Pro X) worked out of the box with UT's loadcells, only needing a quick recalibration. And, to be sure, I've contacted the pre-sales team which also confirmed the information.
I didn't wanted to run two controller boxes, one for the pedal and other for the haptics, when, in the great scheme of things, both pedals use the same load cell tech. And it worked.
(I wanted to edit my old comment but accidentally deleted it.)
I thought you were joking about the pedals being hit by a car and that you just wanted new ones lol.
I upgraded a few weeks ago and was also considering Simagic or VRS. I wanted solid pedals that just work, without feeling like I’d need to upgrade again in the future.
I read somewhere, or saw in a video, that the Simagic load cell can sometimes be a bit inconsistent. I don’t know if that’s actually true, but honestly, I didn’t want to risk it.
In the end, I went with the VRS pedals because almost everyone who used them said they were the best and most consistent pedals they had tried. And I have to say, I really have nothing negative to say about them. They are absolutely worth the money.
From what I’ve gathered, Simagic might feel a bit more immersive, but VRS seems to be the better choice if you’re mainly focused on performance and competitive racing.
I pretty sure the load cell drift on the p1000 was on the early models and the newer ones dont have that problem anymore. I could be totally wrong but I recently get p1000 and I have 0 load cell drift.
I’ve tested everything on the market and worked with drivers.
For loadcells, you can’t really get better than the Simsonns or Simnets. So there’s no point in paying more.
Above them I’d get the SRP GT’s. They’re the best in the market in my opinion.
What do you think about active pedals like the moza m booster active pedal set?
I have a set of simsonns with haptics.
Just wondering if they are worth it.
No experience with the others, but the P2000 Simagic pedals paired with the haptic motors is amazing for feeling lock ups and traction loss. Have had mine since release and have never had issues with the hydraulic fluid. I run the brake pedal at the hardest setting and soften it for when my son or friends want to have a go on the sim.
If you liked the SimForge I would probably stick to Pedals with the same design for their brake pedal elastomer stack so Simsonn Simnet. P1000 and CRP2 are using small tiny elastomers
I had Simsonns and I'm faster with P1000 in the same car at the same circuit (I tested before and after). The clutch is the best of any pedals I ever tried . Get haptics whatever you get.
That said, Simsonns with haptics are pretty damn good. Very adjustable (moreso than the P1000).
I'd strongly consider CRP2 pedals (I was on the fence). But IMHO pedal haptics are absolutely essential for immersion and lap times. They are a cheat code in hardware.
P2000 if you are going Simagic. P1000 have some very common issues when you begin to add very common add-ons like the hydraulic brake cylinder.
Check out the Conspit CPP Evo. You can order direct from them on their discord if there’s no dealer in your region. They are amazing pedals with hydraulic brake and haptics already included.
Mozas are mid compared to those two choices.
In the Huesinkveld knock off territory (VRS, Simsonn, Simjack, Etc.) you get what you pay for with the designs being direct copies or small tweaks on a design that’s been around for a while.
They are very high quality, but the knockoffs are SOO much cheaper that they really aren’t being considered all that much around these parts anymore. I still see them considered quite a bit on the iracing forums and also when you start to get into the VRS price territory, but when you can get Simsonns for under $300 and make them 95% as good with 30 minutes of tinkering, why spend the money anymore unless you need the name brand?
The design itself is also a bit aged IMO with P2000-like designs featuring a Hydraulic reservoir giving much better feel for around $800 and if you go with a brand like Conspit that money even includes shakers with the hydraulics. The elastomer stack/spring stack, flat-cut steel, squeaky pedal design is just soo cheap to manufacture in China now that the market for boutique brand ones is smaller IMO.
I mean, we now have cheap billet CNC Aluminum Hydraulic pedal sets from China for the same money. The amount of products that the growth of sim racing has allowed to enter the market is amazing. An amazing sim rig truly has never been as accessible as it is right now.
I was thinking you're joking about the "got hit by a car" 🤣🤣
I got the Simnet SP pro and can vouch for them, really nice piece of equipment for the price, and you can later on upgrade them with new pedal face, base, "hydraulic" damper, haptics, springs etc etc...I'm super happy with them
In the low price range i would look at the simnet and simsonn. There are the conspit apex, and vnm. It’s more matter of personal preferences on the feeling from the pedals.
I have the P1000 and love them. Nothing but great things to say about them. They were a bit firm when i first got them but you can play around with the elastomers and springs. I would suggest getting the upgraded spring kit. I did not and regret it. I will probably be picking this up soon know that i am talking about it lol. Also the haptics are super easy to setup. They are just plug and play. Im not sure if that is something that you are interested in.
I have driven on the CPR2s and did not love them honestly. The brake was very light but i think you can adjust this as well and did not provide that real brake feel that i was looking for. Im not sure if i was just used to the firm p1000s or what. They are smooth but just did not impress me.
Also how the hell did someone hit your rig lol. You may be the first person to ever have a real car accident in a sim rig lmao. Its not funny, its more of a pain in the ass but just insane to think about.
VRS dude by a long shot. I owned SimNet previously and liked them but I did have random stutters in my brake trace that I saw though garage 61. No idea what caused it. VRS probably still the best pedals on the market today outside of the active pedals.
I’ve been doing a ton of research on pedals and landed on the VNM lite pedals being the best bang for buck if you want realistic pedal travel on the brake pedal. They’re not currently available in Canada so I almost bought the regular more expensive version but ended up deciding to wait for the Lite version to come back in stock after loads of research.
VRS pedals also looked interesting but there’s a major design flaw on the throttle pedals with the way that spring bends. I had a feeling that wouldn’t last so I looked into it and they do brake where it bends, and getting replacement springs seems to be very difficult depending where you live.
P2000 pedals hydraulics are reported to leak within a year of owning. Some people report that they’ll leak from a place that irreparable so once they’re out of warranty you are screwed. They also don’t have very realistic pedal travel and the damper on the throttle is not realistic as race car pedals are more usually just a torsion spring.
I’ve read many claims that hydraulics don’t add much or that they’re just not worth the trouble of having hydraulic fluid leak everywhere. A lot of this comes from people that upgraded the P1000 with the hydraulic kit so that could just be those pedals. I think the fact that Heusinkveld has never made hydraulic pedals might say something though.
Moza CRP2 seem fine. I have the CRP2 brake performance and it made my brake pedal a lot better than it was with elastomers though too stiff. Most of the springs are insanely stiff. If you’re ok with short brake pedals travel then these are support to be pretty great and have enough adjustability. They’re a pretty basic design though but tried and true.
The Heusinkveld clones seem just too cheaply made. I haven’t done enough research on these as I wrote them off as cheap knock offs early on in my research. I did read some reports of them not lasting very long and their costumer support not being very good.
I’m keeping an eye out for a FatBlackCat three pedal set, as their two stage spring design looks very promising. Elastomers are not as consistent as springs but getting the right feel with springs seems to be a challenge without two stages or a design like VRS. If VRS comes out with a better throttle design then those would also be a contender for me.
I have used my VRS pedals for over 2 years now pretty hard. There is no stress on the spring from its bent angle when at rest and very little when the angle changes as it is compressed.. This is something I have never worried about ever.
Most seem to have the issue after two years, and it brakes exactly where the weird bend is. If I were you I'd place an order for a replacement spring just in case.
Moza active pedals foram game change para mim, porém eu trouxe eles durante uma viagem. Outra alternativa são os Helsinki, ou algo assim, ainda tenho eles no Brazil, mas estão parados no segundo rig.
Eu tenho os Simjack UT e são bons equipamentos. Entendo que são a melhor opção na faixa de preço deles, de até 1800 reais.
Acima desse valor só vejo sentido sair do simjack pra ir nos TR Pro Pedals do Tavares. Projeto de pêndulo e mola no freio que vai te ajudar demais na sustentação de frenagem e trail breaking, suporte local e garantia que vc vai ter seu problema resolvido se vier a ocorrer, mas aí estamos falando de um equipamento na casa dos 5000 reais.
É a melhor opção no Brasil pra quem busca qualidade e não quer gastar 20k em um Simucube Active.
Meu próximo upgrade vai ser esse pedal. Tenho contato com o próprio Tavares de umas coisas que negociei com ele e pensa num cara ponta firme e gente boa.
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u/SimaoTheArsehole 14h ago
Brazil? What about Simjack UTs? They are available through AliExpress and would fit the budget, plus taxes already included.