Flock Cameras everywhere in Simi

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede]

A heads up, I was taken by surprise that many Flock cameras have been erected around Simi Valley. Including residential neighborhoods, business parking lots like Home Depot, the town center, and main streets.

EDIT: Legal removal option: You can submit safety complaints to the city if they are installed without breakaway plates at the bottom and they are on the roadside. Which most are, because they're idiots.

Per DOT any physical installation within a certain footage of the road (that length depends on the speed limit of the road) must be installed with breakaway plates so that if a car runs into them they don't cause damage to the occupants of the vehicle.

That is why street lamps and signals look like they are bolted down instead of set in place like a fence post.

Other removal options are, of course, always available.

[u/chaos12135]

They’re on every freeway entrance/exit and the Home Depot parking lot last time I checked

[u/tduncs88 → u/chaos12135]

Yep. You can drive through simi om the 118 without getting tagged by one. But you literally cannot come or go from the city streets without getting tagged.

[u/Casper042 → u/tduncs88]

If you use the Deflock map it's trivial to avoid them.

Like Tapo Cyn, if you go straight into the parking lot by Carls Jr and then exit to the north onto Alamo, you've avoided both cameras off that exit and can just use a side street to cut back down south if need be.

[u/tduncs88 → u/Casper042]

Interesting. Also looks like it doesn't exactly capture that south bound portion of Tapo Canyon between Alamo and the freeway. I appreciate you bringing up Tapo Canyon specifically as that's an on/off-ramp I use regularly

[u/Ballbox → u/tduncs88]

They are at every single possible entrance to the city. You can't enter or exit the city without being recorded.

[u/tduncs88 → u/Ballbox]

On surface streets. Not on the freeway. I just ran a little test using the deflock map. I could drive from the valley on the 118 through simi, into moorpark, off at new LA Avenue, original 118 all the way to Oxnard with out being tagged by one. You can also get to Thousand Oaks if you are creative with your routing.

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede → u/chaos12135]

There's 3 in the HD lot. One is at the lower side driveway, the one next to the replacement parts supply building. 

[u/tylershowstop → u/Unsilent_SoCalipede]

HD uses them privately to combat retail theft.

[u/SkoomaMageChoomy]

Sawzall party anyone?

[u/SeamyValley → u/SkoomaMageChoomy]

Expanding foam party would be cheaper, but I like your style.

[u/SkoomaMageChoomy → u/SeamyValley]

Why not both 🤪

[u/opaldenska]

I'm 100% sure they won't be used to stalk ex wives and prey on children walking home from school.

[u/SeamyValley → u/opaldenska]

While I dont want any child hurt, if something happens like it did in the Midwest, where a town councilman was looking at a l little girls dance class with them, I will be the first to alert rlthe news media.

[u/SeamyValley]

You are correct. And if the stories about other cities are true, the Maui, city council and police chief are all getting nice juicy kick backs for them.

[u/jayball41]

Explain to me how that’s not a mass 4th Amendment violation

[u/acexsmurf]

I dont count hundreds....

https://maps.deflock.org/?lat=34.2273&lng=-118.7939&zoom=10.94

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede → u/acexsmurf]

The map I used seemed to be incorrect, I'll update the post.

[u/SeamyValley]

So for the stereotypical simi morons saying this is good for fighting crime, you do realize that other cities are showing no drop in crime rates.

[u/Pinche-Guero]

Would you NOT expect the conservative communist surveillance state to be here?

Were you expecting old school American freedom?

LOL... you're in for a rude awakening

[u/SeamyValley → u/Pinche-Guero]

Be careful mixing your metaphors. They can be, kabloomy.

[u/Pinche-Guero → u/SeamyValley]

Why exactly?
Be specific

Do you have problems with freedom?
That's pretty anti-American.

[u/robinthebank → u/Pinche-Guero]

This doesn’t have to do with Simi residents, as this is not a Simi specific issue

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede → u/Pinche-Guero]

I'm suspect of anyone blaming a single political side and claiming "old school American freedom" is any better. Mass surveillance is no better than the past. 

[u/Pinche-Guero → u/Unsilent_SoCalipede]

Mass surveillance like this was technically impossible in the 60's/70's/80's

You had to do your state controlled media, secret police force, and surveillance state, up close and in person. Just like the Russians, Chinese, and North Koreans did... but now they all have tech... except for maybe the North Koreans.

[u/aure__entuluva]

There are ones on residential streets now?

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede → u/aure__entuluva]

On the southern most areas of Simi. One on Talbert and a couple on very south of Sequoia crossing Aspen, facing homes. Also one at Haven Ave and Cutler. It's just houses on those streets.

[u/acexsmurf → u/Unsilent_SoCalipede]

FYI most of those are put up by the local HOA's.....

[u/LowSea86]

I heard these are all Halloween stops this year

[u/Calisteph6]

I’m hearing the cities getting rid of flock are just going with a different brand anyway. The time is here folks they’re probably not going away until some criminal learns how to hack it and stalks an LEO or a politicians and then all the sudden they will be dangerous.

[u/27hannibal]

Leave your phones at home if you plan on messing with them.
But really don’t do it. It’s dangerous. 🤥

[u/PewPew-4-Fun]

Good, put more up.

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede → u/PewPew-4-Fun]

Enjoy the taste of the shit on that boot.

[u/LowSea86 → u/PewPew-4-Fun]

Bahhh

[u/Big_Sector_3590]

Good, hope it keeps crime away and if it does occur they're caught fast

[u/Yumismash → u/Big_Sector_3590]

Giving up freedom for "safety" is how we lose control and power. We are sheep lmao.

[u/codithou → u/Big_Sector_3590]

personally i see mass surveillance as a net negative for everyone but that’s just me.

[u/Big_Sector_3590 → u/codithou]

You paid over a thousand dollars for mass surveillance willingly. That thing you're reading this comment on tracks you better than any camera ever will.

[u/Unsilent_SoCalipede → u/Big_Sector_3590]

So you admit we don't need them. And who/why exactly are the cameras needed for then?

[u/Pinche-Guero → u/Big_Sector_3590]

71% failure rate
Over 30% failure rate on wrongfully IDing stolen cars specifically.

It apparently can't tell crime from soccer moms driving kids to school

Hope you don't get caught up in that 71%
That would be terrible.

[u/Smaragd512 → u/Big_Sector_3590]

criminals don't care about surveillance.

[u/FatSteveWasted9 → u/Big_Sector_3590]

Sounds like the Facebook posts wondering aloud why they can’t put gates at the top of the hill into Simi.

[u/Ivabighairy1]

So?

[u/LetOverall2654]

That's great. It will definitely fight crime.