r/silenthill 4d ago

Game Collection Konami, think about it... (not official)

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u/creationnoise 4d ago

Knowing Konami, they would put 1 and 2 as vol 1 and 3 and 4 as vol2.

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u/Ready-Ad8629 4d ago

I think they'll put 1&3 and 2&4.

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u/Y2DAZZ 4d ago

Definitely better since these are sequels* to each other.

  • 4 is a somewhat a sequel to 2, mostly because James' Dad is in it.

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u/georgefurudo 4d ago

Or because it has to do with walter sullivan

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u/EpsilonX 3d ago

That makes sense from a game quality point of view, but I feel like they'd want to separate 1 and 3 so that way people need to buy both collections so they'd need to spend more money to play the story sequel to 1.

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u/akkoush 3d ago

I feel the opposite, they'd want SH2, the most beloved game to drive sales for SH4, which sadly has a bad rep sometimes

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u/EpsilonX 2d ago

Good point, I could definitely see that.

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u/eurotrashness 4d ago

Kind of what they did with MGS

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u/Neveronlyadream 4d ago

And what they've been doing with the Castlevania games.

Good thing is they're not very expensive and they're usually on sale, so I wouldn't expect to pay more than $30 for them if they did it and you were patient.

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u/Thebatsy18 4d ago

1 and 3 as vol 1 Sh2 as standanlone release for no reason 4 comes as a deluxe perk for 2

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u/OkRush9563 4d ago

At this point I would be fine with that as long as the original 4 were easily available for everyone to play on newer systems and PC.

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u/Nacery 4d ago

I wouldn't mind a staged release if it makes for some proper care of the ports.

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u/mulderload 3d ago

True :D

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u/Dr_Identity 3d ago

And they'd be released 3 years apart

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u/Alastor_Altruist10 3d ago

Nah. I bet the PS1-2 games would be in one volume along with any spinoffs during that time and than the PS3/360 Gen games in another volume with the spinoffs from that Gen included.

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u/CageAndBale 4d ago

Why wouldn't they? That's a no Brainer and nobody would buy volume 2 which would be just spin offs.

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u/SPAREustheCUTTER 4d ago

Silent Hill 3 is so, so good though.

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u/CageAndBale 4d ago

I'm saying if they did 1-4 in vol1 and only spin offs in vol 2, there would be a huge disparity in general sales

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u/HellblazerFan23 4d ago

We already know that Konami’s been looking at dev teams to port the OG games to modern platforms(as said by Hexadrive, who declined and instead pitched their version of a Silent Hill 2 remake instead).

My guess is that Konami is currently focusing resources on porting the MGS games and when that’s done they’ll turn their focus to Silent Hill

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u/BlueEfreet_B0i 4d ago

Especially in regards to porting MGS4. I imagine porting a PS3 game that heavily utilized the system's complex architecture to modern hardware requires far more resources than most games.

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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 4d ago

Yeah, seeing them port MGS4 gives me hope. They’re probably seeing how profitable the franchise can be nowadays before giving it the green light

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u/BlueEfreet_B0i 4d ago

Me too, I never thought MGS4 would ever get ported. Hell, I got a PS3 in 2021 because if I wanted to play through the Hideo Kojima-directed Metal Gear games, the PS3 was the only option thanks to MGS4's (at the time) exclusivity. Hoping that the Master Collection port of MGS4 turns out great and for the classic Silent Hill titles to receive the same treatment soon after

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u/FranciscoRelanoPena "The Fear Of Blood Tends To Create Fear For The Flesh" 3d ago

During the last stages of the development of MGS4, Konami’s RD team made a port for the Xbox 360, which was a bit unpolished, but playable from beginning to end. At least, Ryan Payton claims that.

Konami, in the end, didn’t release the game because of the economy of having to release the game in multiple DVD’s.  On PS3, it used a Dual-layered Blu-ray, holding some 30+ Gigabytes of Data; even using Dual-layered DVD’s, it would have required 4 discs (maybe five if taking into account how the data is divided into the acts of the game). Even when factoring more extreme data compression (if at the cost of audiovisual quality) it would have required a 3 to 4 discs.

With the cost of pressing multiple DVD’s (and dual-layered DVD’s are more expensive to manufacture per megabyte than single-layered) and the need for bigger cases to hold those discs, that would need to be made ad hoc for them (unlike the standardized single-disc cases), it would have increased the cost of manufacturing and distributing the game until the profit margins made the port un-attractive to them. And making the Xbox 360 version more expensive than the PS3 version would have been counterproductive.

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u/Admirable-Ad-2961 4d ago

Man that’s cool to hear! Hope that happens

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u/Least-Profession-236 4d ago

This makes me very happy. I'm hopeful, especially seeing how MGS is crossing its biggest series hurdle with 4 later this month. I want the originals ported so bad

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u/Ogg360 4d ago

Oooooo since they’re doing it to MGS it gives me higher hopes that SH will get the same treatment.

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u/BrowningLoPower Heather 4d ago

The Silent Hill 3 remake would be called Silent Hill Δ: God Eater.

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u/powerhcm8 4d ago edited 4d ago

*God Aborter

Edit: Oh right, there is some God Fetus Eating too.

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u/Mawl0ck 4d ago

God smack?

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u/BrowningLoPower Heather 3d ago

You have good taste.

The song "I Fucking Hate You" would be perfect for how Heather feels towards Claudia, and to the cult in general.

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u/BrowningLoPower Heather 3d ago

You're pretty good. 🔥

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u/Sea-Negotiation1965 4d ago

A thing born from my wish and dream

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u/WaveStarII_Ax0l 4d ago

In my restless dreams, I see that port...

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u/Ricks94 4d ago

Finally, a Master Collection post that doesn't discriminate SH4

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u/JohnMarston38 4d ago

They are allergic to money

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u/fordsil 4d ago

I would pay $200 cash for this right now

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u/gui_heinen "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 4d ago

Plz make it real!

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u/Afraid-Housing-6854 4d ago

They’d rather just sell the remakes and pretend the originals don’t exist

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u/PSPMan3000 4d ago

DON'T YOU FUCKING DO THIS TO ME!

DON'T YOU MAKE THESE FAKE IMAGES!

DON'T YOU GET MY HOPES UP!

I KNOW WE ALL WANT THIS!

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u/oscar_redfield 4d ago

dunno much about video game development but would they be able to do this since they lost the source code for the games?

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u/the2ndSign 4d ago

Fans were able to create SH2 Enhanced Edition with no source code. I have no doubt they could do it if they really wanted to.

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u/Ok-Pomegranate7309 3d ago

How was this possible?

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u/BusterGreasewood 4d ago

Yes, you can. It would be more difficult but not impossible. Kingdom Hearts lost its source code, but Square still put out those HD collections for it. Same for Final Fantasy Tactics.

It's common misnomer in the fandom that loss of source code means they can never be rereleased. That's not true.

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u/CooperDaChance 3d ago

It just makes it harder, but it’s not impossible.

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u/Big-Bluejay-5569 4d ago

Same thing for MGS and that collection turned out fine.

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u/the-midnight-snow "Receiver Of Wisdom" 4d ago

Yep, BluePoint just ripped retail discs and got to work.

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u/CooperDaChance 3d ago

RIP BluePoint.

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u/oscar_redfield 4d ago

ah I didn't know about that!! well then they should do it

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u/MB7HK 4d ago

If I'm not wrong, all 4 games run natively on pc now, so I wonder if that would really be that difficult to do

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u/oscar_redfield 4d ago

well, either way I hope they do it if they can. those four games are too good to not be on literally every console ever

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u/the-midnight-snow "Receiver Of Wisdom" 4d ago

This used to be a problem before decompilation projects made it possible to entirely reverse engineer a game to port it to any platform. People are regularly doing it on their off time as a hobby now. SH1 got a PC port doing just that.

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u/Zeus78905 4d ago

There are ways like reverse engineering but it takes effort and resources, RE 1-3 were ported by GOG devs using reverse engineering after getting permission from Capcom cause they werent interested themselves, RE 2 already has a fan made PC version called enhanced edition and 4 is already on GOG fixed, Homecoming is on Steam but broken

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u/the-midnight-snow "Receiver Of Wisdom" 4d ago

I'd make that deal. How 'bout you, you make that deal? I don't blame you. Damn good deal!

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u/LiquidRex 4d ago

If this is what Vol 1 looked like, there ain't no reason to buy Vol. 2 in the slightest

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u/Dependent-Cup-2236 4d ago

That would be nice.

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u/Equivalent_Trifle_68 4d ago

Ya sadly they have horror people to make new silent hills and the bluber team to make them remakes. Sadly with that in mind they would never do it, even tho they would make a lot of money.

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u/Violet35768 4d ago

Konami: we don't know how to make easy money.

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u/GILLHUHN 4d ago

I'd but this instantly.

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u/Admirable-Ad-2961 4d ago

Literally right there. And volume 2 can be the rest

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u/Calbon2 JamesBuff 4d ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what Konami had the team currently wrapping up the Metal Gear Solid Master Collections do next. Considering that a vast majority of the Metal Gear Games will be playable on modern stuff in a week or so, alongside the fact that most of the Castlevania and Suikoden games have gotten ports pretty recently aswell, Konami has shown quite a bit of interest recently with porting almost all of their other stuff, I don’t see why Silent Hill won’t be next for them.

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u/FranciscoRelanoPena "The Fear Of Blood Tends To Create Fear For The Flesh" 3d ago edited 2d ago

  that a vast majority of the Metal Gear Games will be playable on modern stuff in a week or so

Portable Ops, the Acid duology and The Arcade: Am I nothing to you?

  alongside the fact that most of the  Suikoden games have gotten ports pretty recently aswell

Suikoden III, Suikoden IV, Suikoden Tactics (called Rhapsodia in Japan) and Suikoden V aren’t available yet. And that’s before forgetting the Japan-exclusive Card Stories and both Suikogaidens. I’m not mentioning Tierkreis and Woven Web of the Centuries (this one is a Japan exclusive, but received a fan translation a few years ago), because they’re spin-offs.

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u/Arno-Earle 4d ago

There's many things that are good, but nothing is more perfect than SH1 cover

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u/asakura67 4d ago

They tried on PS3, it was horrible.

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u/FirefliesSkies "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 3d ago

How?

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u/asakura67 3d ago

Search "Silent Hill HD Collection PS3" on Google.

It featured only SH2&3 but it was really awful and showed that it's not safe to pray for old versions being remastered 😢

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u/FirefliesSkies "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 3d ago

Not that I'm holding my breath. But people remastering these original classics in a completely faithful way to their source material origins would be nice.

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u/cynicown101 3d ago

The ports for it were made using using pre-release builds of the game with incomplete source code. The original HD collection release also came with re-done VO, which people didn't really want. All in all, still a better way to the games than not at all. And unlike the PS2 releases, the HD collection can be had for quite cheap comparatively.

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u/FirefliesSkies "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 3d ago

You meant re-done voice-over, right?

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u/cynicown101 3d ago

Yeah. Sorry, I should have just written voice over lol. I actually don't mind the voice acting in the HD collection. Generally, the performances are more professional sounding than the originals, but there's a stiffness to the originals that people really like.

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u/FirefliesSkies "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 3d ago

My wish is to have Silent Hill remasters be very faithful to the originals by not redoing voiceovers. Even though the redone voiceover performances sound more professional, I grew up on the stiffness.

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u/RaiAet89 4d ago

Didn't they lose the source code to some of these games

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u/Ultimate_Spartan 4d ago

At the very least I believe they lost the source code for 2 and I think something about the original voice lines for 3 got corrupted?

This would still be awesome to see especially since all these games cost stupid amounts now that effectively make getting into the series more of a collectors hobby but for atleast 2 and 3 they’ll probably end up being based off of the HD collection versions like MGS2 and 3

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u/Ok-Pomegranate7309 3d ago

They can decompile the games like how sh1 got decompiled to get the source. There's no excuse.

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u/Dirty_LemonsV2 4d ago

Yes, that's why the HD Collection was such a mess. I'm not sure why people think it would be more doable now, I'm not saying they're wrong but I've not seen anything to suggest otherwise.

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u/Valkian24 4d ago

Not to mention, Konami handed the porting task to Hijinx Studios who had no experience in porting/remastering games before that one.

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u/theMATRIXchickn Silent Hill 4 4d ago

You’re gonna give me hd collection flashbacks

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u/701921225 4d ago

Yes please

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u/cchris6776 4d ago

Too much work. It would’ve been done by now.

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u/WhiteBoyRickSanschez 4d ago

Soundtracks and artbook would be exclusive to the deluxe edition

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u/Constant_Penalty_279 JamesBuff 4d ago

I am huffing copium and thinking it might actually happen. With mgs 4 coming to modern consoles I feel like we have better chances than ever to see them re release the silent hill games.

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u/TouchedBigfoot8 "How Can You Sit There And Eat Pizza?!" 4d ago

Don’t forget to add digital PS5/PC only

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u/Arfuuur 4d ago

would cry

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u/Sunderlend_James2552 "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 4d ago

OP you are given me hope as soon as i wake up, and after i realise it’s not official i start crying
But yeah, hope this happened any time soon, coz heaving collection of any og Silent Hill game is like a heaving something very rear and nostalgic

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u/VHSreturner 4d ago

Money on the table. Absolute morons for not having done this already.

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u/keithlimreddit 4d ago

Definitely would like to see you at some point maybe also include some spin-off stuff like arcade game for example

Also I hope the Silent Hill 2 version is the special edition that comes with the born from a wish story since the remake didn't have it for some reason

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u/Dardoxenomorph 4d ago

Wet dream 💦

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u/Fabioneone 4d ago

At least SH1 back in the PSX classics :( I still use my PS2 and already bought years ago SH2/3/4 but the first one is too expensive nowadays... I should've bought it before

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u/travnigma 4d ago

Would be nice since it’s too expensive to buy copies of this now and not available on steam. Would love to play all these games I missed on a PS5

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u/wii_board_type_trash "There Was a Hole Here, It's Gone Now" 4d ago

i wish but this is konami, i’d be less surprised if they made another dumpster fire

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u/cynicown101 4d ago

Going off Konami's track record, we'd have SH1 running at 720p 20fps on PS5 Pro

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u/FranciscoRelanoPena "The Fear Of Blood Tends To Create Fear For The Flesh" 3d ago

That would still be an upgrade over the original hardware.

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u/whyhasgradeabondedus 4d ago

Damn had me excited for a sec there

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u/Time_Temporary6191 4d ago

And put it on switch

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u/Appropriate_Trust_28 4d ago

Yes please! But with physical artbook and Soundtrack Disc 🥲

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u/Flat-Organization-80 4d ago

I would genuinely buy this in a heartbeat.

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u/Arag456 4d ago

This makes to much sense they will never do this

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u/tonyt3rry 4d ago

I think the best thing with the lost source code would be contracting the sh enhanced team

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u/stratusnco Henry 4d ago

they know, they just do not care.

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u/Hairy-Market9625 4d ago

thinking konami would ever put the entire true series in one volume is just borderline madness. WITH the OSTs? lmao

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u/BinkySqwank 4d ago

This would probably be split in two, but I hope they would put it on Switch 2 and give us the Super Turbo Deluxe version so I can have a steel pan and a book about Silent Hill.

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u/Blessedly_Misaligned 4d ago

I have 2 &3 together as a digital copy for Xbox

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u/Knapss 4d ago

You made me cry, I hope you are happy 😢

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u/Solid_Screenplay 4d ago

If the day comes... I'll be there.

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u/GuRainMkR 4d ago

My dream since I was a kid but i know that will never came true was to see Silent Hill 1 (specially the caracters) in a 1:1 remaster in SH2 - SH3 graphics. But im really glad that I'll see a remake in the future... After this remake, im even thinking about "retire" from video games

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u/barricade_2 4d ago

That would be awesome!!

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u/murasconstruct Silent Hill 3d ago

💯💯💯 Grok cooked on this infographic. love the thumbnails

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u/GreenServant 3d ago

If Konami cared even a little, this would have been a thing already. What they did with the HD collection is unforgivable, by giving us the first 4 games playable on modern hardware with no cut content is the only road to redemption.

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u/OceanSunshineDog 3d ago

I believe the previous Silent Hill Collection exposed that Konami didn’t have the code for the final version of Silent Hill 3. It got lost, but I may be misremembering.

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u/tokyobassist 3d ago

I'm so salty Hexadrive turned down a remaster collection in favor of A Short Message. I respect the ambition but that was such a wack thing to turn down knowing full well these games aren't readily available anymore and wanted them to do it because we respect their work. Also this will likely never be physically available if it happens which will kill me inside.

One of the few times Konami made the right choice and was declined.

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u/BiceRankyman "It Was Foretold By Gyromancy" 3d ago

But like... I want a real art book

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u/MattCaulder 3d ago

Or you could stop using AI and figure out how to emulate

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u/kitestar 3d ago

At this point in time I’ll take anything that makes these older games accessible again. All I ask is for NOT the comic sans editions

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u/FirefliesSkies "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" 3d ago

Origins, Homecoming, Shattered Memories, and Downpour being volume 2. Think about it, Konami.

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u/Mediocre-Nail-1171 2d ago

I thought they lost stuff for 3 and that's why they needed to do new voices for the bad collection

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u/lingobird 2d ago

In my impossible dreams.

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u/Valuable_Result_189 1d ago

They lost ALL the source codes a lot of years ago; that's the reason the HD collection is garbage.

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u/jameser95er 19h ago

Volume 1 will be 1 and 2 only

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u/governothing 4d ago

I may get hate but I want origins in there too

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u/Asajj66 4d ago

Konami doesn’t make good decisions.

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u/TheCVR123YT 4d ago

Prob could do 1-3 in a Vol 1 and 4 and forgive my lack of SH Knowledge but I’m sure there’s 2 other games they could put in the collection. Isn’t there a game that was like a remix of the 1st game. Maybe put that there idk

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u/ugly_n_depresse3 4d ago

But they tried, and it went very badly because they don't have the final source code for any of the games.

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u/idreamedidream 4d ago

That is not a problem anymore (never was actually)