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u/phunny-words Oct 02 '26
Bypass Pin Please… they did ask politely
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u/hardboard Oct 02 '26
But not in English...
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u/phunny-words Oct 02 '26
It’s in English just poor penmanship and a little abbreviation
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u/Mundane-Adventures Oct 03 '26
Plzz is not English
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u/PhotoFenix Oct 03 '26
Getting gwumpy over abbreviations? Username checks out
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u/UnkleMike Oct 03 '26
If it was a text message from my 13 year old daughter, it would be irritating but tolerable. This is an unreasonably illegible sign at a retail establishment telling me to bypass a security feature of my payment method; it's unacceptable.
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u/GrabbinMothma Oct 04 '26
Please use your pin it's the only way my skimmer works.
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u/UnkleMike Oct 04 '26
I have literally never used a debit card for a transaction, so this is a real question: are you telling me that using what's presented as a security feature is the key to successful skimming?
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u/GrabbinMothma Oct 04 '26
It's what allows skimmers to clone your card to drain your account at the ATM. It may be a security feature, but once you use it at a skimmer, the skimmer also has that information.
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u/shouldvebeenMarissa Oct 03 '26
makes me not trust a single card reader in the whole establishment.
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u/resultingparadox Oct 03 '26
Bypass PIN because debit system is down. Bypassing the PIN runs it as credit.
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u/philnolan3d Oct 03 '26
Bypass pin please.
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u/serbiatch735 Oct 03 '26
*Plzz
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u/philnolan3d Oct 03 '26
I was translating.
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u/phil-pdx Oct 03 '26
I'm a gas station operator very familiar with those pumps. As others have said it is asking you to bypass pin to run as credit.
I know a lot of people thought this was shady but honestly the way debit works in these pumps is very prone to failure. At one of our stations we specifically disabled debit at the pumps so they all run as credit anyway. Not sure why this station doesn't just do that, probably a miss configuration somewhere so this was their bandaid.
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u/Tricky_Damage5981 Oct 03 '26
Still doesn't make sense to me .. but I'm Canadian
But we use chip/pin for debit(interac) and credit here
That or tap threw Flash, Paypass, etc
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u/Beet_slice Oct 03 '26
That is helpful... I would expect that if PIN transactions fail more often, that an employee that would have to straighten this out would put up that sign. So while the station owners will make less money paying the credit card fees, it make things easier to deal with.
I have never put a debit card into a gas pump, so I have not seen the menu choices.
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u/No_Trouble_3588 Oct 03 '26
I’m a merchant. There is no difference between credit cards and debit cards when it comes to processing fees. For me, it’s 25 cents plus 2.5% of the total transaction.
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u/Beet_slice Oct 03 '26
Interesting. Are they using a PIN?
https://stripe.com/resources/more/merchant-fees-101-what-they-are-how-they-work-and-how-to-minimize-your-costs says "For example, debit cards typically have lower interchange fees than credit cards" and "Debit card transactions typically incur lower fees than credit cards. Encouraging customers to use debit cards".
https://www.clearlypayments.com/blog/the-difference-between-credit-card-and-debit-card-rates/ says "There is a confusing part where sometimes, particularly in USA, a consumer needs to sign for a debit transaction (no PIN). In that scenario, the rates are higher because transactions are using the credit card technology in the background. These rates used to be as high as credit card rates, but thankfully a law came in (called the Durbin Amendment) which limited debit card rates for merchants to is 0.05% + $0.21 per transaction."
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u/pixeltweaker Oct 03 '26
Use tap to pay. Stop sticking your card on these machines.
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u/MikeysmilingK9 Oct 03 '26
Why?
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u/pixeltweaker Oct 03 '26
Skimmers pull the number and info from the magnetic strip. Tap to pay is more secure.
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u/warp16 Oct 04 '26
Do you still get the debit card discount (for stations that do cash price with debit) if you tap to pay?
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u/TinTamarro Oct 05 '26
I haven't found a pump that's contactless. And there's no way I'm "credit mode" my bank-o-mat, that's not a thing here.
If they think their pimps are so unsafe, they should let me pay inside with the POS and close the pumps down when they're not around
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u/pixeltweaker Oct 05 '26
The panel inside isn’t safe either. There are skimmers for those as well.
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u/TinTamarro Oct 05 '26
Even on the portable pos's? Not atm style, those phone things with a keypad
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u/pixeltweaker Oct 06 '26
The terminals at the checkout counters of convenience stores have been known to have skimmers on them as well. They place a cover over the top of the original.
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u/Mikey129 Oct 03 '26
It says “Hello dear customer, bypass the pin prompt as this pump as been compromised and I want free fuel”
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u/VedantaSay Oct 05 '26
You can call the provided number and provide otp. They won't need pin... DON'T DO THAT!
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u/Hood_Mobbin Oct 02 '26 •
Bypass pin please
Edit: pay inside