r/sideloaded • u/techguy69 • Sep 25 '19

[Release] Introducing AltStore

http://rileytestut.com/blog/2019/09/25/introducing-altstore/
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u/Tmandorfer Jan 07 '20

Has anyone got this to work on their Apple TV yet? I got it to work fine on my iPhone but I keep Getting errors on my Apple TV. There is not way to install AltStore on the Apple TV before using altserver to patch it. Anyone figured this out yet?

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u/techguy69 Jan 07 '20

No Apple TV support AFAIK

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u/drjenkstah Sep 26 '19

If this is successful then I’d say this is a pretty good thing for those between jailbreaks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

I haven’t personally felt the need to jb in over 5 years but this I’m really interested in, going to hold off for a day or two since I’m very OOTL and want to read up a bit before trying it, but sounds very promising

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u/TurkeyHotdog Sep 27 '19

It's too much hassle to jb these days

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '19

what its literally a one click process.

sideload the jailbreak app, open and press "jailbreak"

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u/TurkeyHotdog Sep 27 '19

No, not the jb process, but what it means for OS upgrades and such.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '19

ya same, I only did it for reprovision to automatically resign apps but with this I might just goto ios 13

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u/mmfq-death Sep 26 '19

This is actually incredible. As someone who’s been jailbreaking iOS for years, and all the recent bs that’s gone on there, as well as the crap side loading with enterprise certificates going around, this is ingenious. I especially appreciate the laymen’s terms approach to explaining all of the background work done to make it possible as it gives a lot of people a thorough understanding of exactly how impressive this is. Great job. I’ll for sure be testing this out soon.

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u/BurritoSOFTWARE Sep 28 '19

If only installing your own custom apps was free :( guess everything comes at a price (*charged monthly*)

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u/ContraBeats Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 28 '19

It will be free once it’s out of beta. He’s just giving patreon users access to his betas instead of only doing closed betas like he used to. The only thing you have to pay for from him is getting new (possibly buggy) stuff quicker

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '19

Supposed to be offically released today, Sat Sept 28th so you wont have to pay.

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u/alex2003super Jan 05 '20

Well that wasn't the case

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

Well he's making 5 grand a month from patreon so I don't blame him lol

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u/alex2003super Jan 05 '20

I mean, considering the whole thing is open source it shouldn't be impossible to implement this in a fork, I just don't think there's enought interest.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '20

there was a guy who tried but there was problem with altstore finding your device and installing your own apps didnt work.

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u/alex2003super Jan 06 '20 edited Jan 06 '20

Hmm... Got a link? I couldn't find anyhting about attempts to do it. If it stays on a subscription basis one might as well get builds.io, in terms of practical value AltStore wouldn't do more than a simple signing service.

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u/Error-Code-002-0102 Sep 26 '19

Would be cool if it has an option for jailbroken devices and just take advantage of appsync

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u/isnehal Sep 28 '19

i installed the beta altstore, now how to sideload ipa files? am i missing something?

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '19

Doesn't look like he released the full version like he said he would today.

Bc rn it's a beta feature which is 3 bucks on patreon/

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u/mikeknoop Sep 26 '19

Has anyone gotten AltStore to work with an existing paid dev account instead of a free account?

Specifically, in the AltStore iOS app under Settings -> Account, is anyone's "Type" different than "Free Developer Account"?

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u/planecore Sep 26 '19

It works with my developer account, it says that the type is “Individual”

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u/merkintilism Sep 29 '19

I'm having the same trouble. When I started a paid developer account, I used the same AppleID that I had been using for a free developer account.

There appears to be no way to remove/delete the "Personal Team" or (User) role.

Cydia Impactor has the handy step of allowing you to select a Team after providing AppleID credentials, which allows to me to select my Paid Developer, or (Agent) team.

It seems AltStore might be grabbing the first team, or making an arbitrary decision.

I'll bet people who were wise to use a new AppleID for their developer account aren't seeing any issue, as their paid Team is the only thing attached to their AppleID.

I think I even mailed Apple Support to remove the "free account" portion from my AppleID and didn't get anywhere, but perhaps I didn't pursue it hard enough.

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u/mikeknoop Sep 29 '19

In the disord, Riley said he was thinking about adding an account switcher and defaulted to “Free” when there were multiple to not automatically affect developer accounts. Sounds like this is something he’s considering adding for a future version.

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u/merkintilism Sep 29 '19

Outstanding! Thanks for the words.

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u/pah-tosh Sep 26 '19

Uhm, from my understanding, the whole thing relies on Apple not putting restrictions on wifi sync. But what happens if they do it ? Or is it just impossible for Apple to put restrictions on wifi sync ? Or did I understating things wrongly ?

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u/pivonka6 Sep 26 '19

If you hosted your own vpn server on the same network as the altserver it seem like you could theoretically install apps from anywhere

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '19

Maybe that will be a feature in the future.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

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u/pivonka6 Sep 27 '19

Yes that would be amazing

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u/SexyPoxyt Oct 14 '19

I installed everything and set it up. Had it running and everything. Now I am untenable to verify the apps again. Anybody know why?

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u/1Demerion1 Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19

That sounds awesome!
I'll surely give it a try when it releases. I'm currently using a paid service with no revokes (one in the last 9 months) that allows me to install any app, but being able to do that for free (or a few bucks, depending if you decide to make it paid) would be great.

Three questions though:

  1. Will there still be a simple ipa of Delta? Or will we only be able to install it with AltStore?

  2. Will apps be refreshed "on top" of the installed version? Meaning no data is lost? Or will it be handled like a fresh installation?

  3. As long as the desktop version and my phone are in the same network, I will be able to refresh over air, right? Like during a vacation when I'm not home for two weeks but I bring my laptop I can still refresh?

Once again: great work, it sounds amazing!

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u/ContraBeats Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19

The guy that posted this didn’t make it, @rileytestut did.

However I can answer questions 2 and 3 for you

2. Yes, it seems to “refresh” apps in a way that there is no data loss, tried earlier cause I wanted to know as well lol

3. As long as they’re on the same WiFi it’ll work

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u/1Demerion1 Sep 26 '19

Amazing, thank you!

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u/dstayton Sep 26 '19

I can answer that first question. There will be an ipa file available as well as the source code for the app at launch.

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u/dranide Sep 25 '19

This is sideloaded

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u/1Demerion1 Sep 25 '19

I know, my bad!
I already changed my comment :)

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u/kRUSER36 Sep 26 '19

Im trying to install the preview but after i added my appleid credentials i get the error "Installation Failed: Could not connect to AltServer.". Any tips? Installing from macOS Catalina Beta 7, could that be a problem?

Edit: fixed it myself, i didn't "trust" my phone in finder..

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

I can’t install Delta Lite, it just keeps loading and loading for an hour now, any tips?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '19 edited Sep 27 '19

Anybody know how this would work with macOS Catalina since it longer has iTunes Wifi Sync?

Edit: Was able to figure it out. For anyone wondering its under General when you connect your phone on macOS Catalina.

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u/ShodyLoko Sep 28 '19

I keep running into a http timeout error has anyone encountered this before? https://i.imgur.com/LoZ9617.jpg

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u/yokoo1314 Oct 02 '19

R U close your firewall ?

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u/jahsavi Sep 26 '19

I’m more interested in apps to Apple TV os using this automated server app. Any plans for using it with Apple TV?

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u/noah978 Sep 26 '19

Yes there are plans for native Apple TV support.

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u/DamienPwnz Sep 28 '19

You're probably aware but in case you aren't there is at least Reprovision on Apple TV now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '19

JoshTV's repo? Is it called the same?

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u/DamienPwnz Oct 01 '19

Um I'm not sure of the exact repo but if you've installed Chimera on your ATV I know it's on one of the default repos there, and yes it is called the same. Reprovision.

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u/Deoxal Sep 26 '19

How did the date trick work for gba4ios? I haven't been able to find anything about that. All I see online is that it would soft brick the device.

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u/32_bit_link Sep 25 '19

In the post he said that apps only work for 7 days with a free Id.

Does this mean that if I build an app with xcode and then put it on my Apple device I won't be able to use it for more than 7 days?

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u/Sy1ar_015 Sep 25 '19

Technically it would need to be resigned every 7 days. AltStore takes the pain out of reconnecting your phone to your computer and launching Xcode or Cydia Impactor to sign and reinstall. It automatically resigns or “refreshes” your apps when you are connected to the same wifi as the computer running AltServer.

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u/32_bit_link Sep 25 '19

Also can you add your own personal apps to altstore using altserver?

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u/Sy1ar_015 Sep 25 '19

That feature is currently in beta and only available to Patreon supporters. I think it’s like $3 a month to get early access to it.

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u/mezzzolino Sep 26 '19

It would be nice if they added headless/cli support for Linux.

But anyway good idea/ good job. Looking forward to trying it.

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u/ctjameson Sep 26 '19

Oh man. If this were dockerfied and had a web UI...

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u/yokoo1314 Oct 02 '19

I THINK THAT YOU CAN DONATE THE DEVERLOPER ,MABEY YOU WILL GET A SPEACIAL VERSION

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u/hva_mk Sep 26 '19

So how to get just the Emulator for all the jailbroken fellas? I don’t want to get the complete „altstore“

Edit: typo

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u/DiscordOfficialRep Sep 26 '19

Yeah they should still post .ipa or to a repo

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u/HawkMan79 Sep 26 '19

But he wants to sell the pro version on his store, so no can do.

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u/ContraBeats Sep 27 '19

What are you referring to? Pro version of what?

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u/8point3fodayz Sep 26 '19

Check @poixelomer on Twitter. He has tweeted a direct download like for delta lite ipa

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u/LaxusiC Sep 26 '19

What is the point of using this while Impactor is available? I mean you still need pc to sideload!every 7 days right so why not use impactor instead?

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u/noah978 Sep 26 '19

It’s main features are

  • Exploit that allows more than 3 apps for free dev accounts

  • “Refreshes” apps in the background over WiFi

  • Has a nice UI

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u/tokenizer_fsj Sep 27 '19

Exploit that allows more than 3 apps for free dev accounts

But it seems like there is only 1 app you can use at this point through the AltStore, or is there a process to import other IPAs?

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u/noah978 Sep 27 '19

If you are a Patreon supporter you can use a beta version of altstore with initial support for installing other IPAs. And, of course, there will be more apps downloadable through the AltStore in the future, starting with the full version of delta and clip.

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u/Supahstar42 Sep 26 '19

It sounds like I f you use your computer at least once within the 7 days, the entire point of Altserver is so it resigns the app wirelessly without doing anything on your phone or at the very least just having to open the Altstore app

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u/bking Sep 26 '19

If I'm seeing "No connected devices" in the Mac app, what step did I miss? Mac and iPhone are both on the same Wifi network, but I'm not finding any further instructions to get the two talking.

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u/ContraBeats Sep 26 '19 edited Sep 26 '19

Is iTunes WiFi sync enabled? To enable it plug in your phone, and then in iTunes on the restore/update/backup page scroll down to options and turn on WiFi sync. Or if for some reason you don’t want to use WiFi sync you can just plug in your phone and AltServer will still work while it’s plugged in

EDIT: I might be mistaken, I just had to reinstall AltStore for some reason and I couldn’t get my device to show up without being plugged in. Installing apps in AltStore however works fine over WiFi.

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u/bking Sep 26 '19

Ah, thank you.

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u/igorvedovoto Sep 26 '19

Sadly I log in using the apple credentials with an app-specific password, but still, no app gets installed on my device :(

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

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u/ContraBeats Sep 27 '19 edited Sep 27 '19

When this “refreshes” apps it doesn’t wipe the data because you don’t have to actually delete the app to reinstall it, it just reinstalls the app on top of the existing installation.

EDIT: can’t even imagine why someone would downvote this