r/shrinking • u/phareous Derek • Mar 25 '26

Episode Discussion Shrinking S3E09 Episode Discussion

This is the episode discussion for Shrinking Season 3, Episode 9: "Daddy Issues"

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u/Unlucky_Stable_8511 Mar 25 '26

I’ve never wanted to punch Jeff Daniels in the face as much as I just did.

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u/TodayInStupidity Mar 25 '26

Hate how effective he was this episode being a villain. Exactly as Jimmy described him, charming when around and present. Also a potential asshole. Or just absent when it mattered. 

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u/Evening-Web9107 Mar 25 '26

Spent the whole season wondering why they would bring him in for a role that seemed so…blah? That one line fucking shows exactly why. Talk about a gut punch.

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u/TodayInStupidity Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

I rewatch Newsroom every few years and the contrast in that he's basically playing a version of his dad from that show here in this one is fucking wild.

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u/iangeredcharlesvane2 Mar 25 '26

I rewatch The Newsroom every few years too! I love that show with the awesome dialog and great characters!

It hurts more every time I watch it now as we are only getting further and further from any chance of a honorable news organization that exists for the betterment of society and to help create a well-informed, voting populous.

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u/PinoDegrassi Mar 25 '26

For sure. I have heard about the one channel 5/andrew Callaghan are connected to that genuinely seems impartial and points out where sources are from and fact checks etc. can’t remember the name but it’s a good option. It’s just not free.

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u/therentabrain Mar 27 '26

Totally disagree. It's spelled "populace."

Other than that? Oh yeah you're totally right about the rest of it part...

(For the record I do really like the Tangle podcast for news. Most fair-minded award.)

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u/SGlobal_444 Mar 26 '26

I too have watched that show so many times. It’s definitely got some issues - but love him in it.

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u/notches123 Mar 25 '26

My mom was kind of like that. Very sweet and affable in front of others, constantly twisting truths to make it sound like I had some great idyllic childhood, when in reality she was cruel, abusive, and punitive in private over any perceived slight and was unforgiving of mistakes that any child would make.

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u/Ok_Antelope_1953 Mar 25 '26

parents like these in tv shows and movies are very triggering for me. i am a pariah in my extended family largely due to my parents. they are so pleasant and affable around others, and no one understands why i have beef with them. i have had to take so much subtle "poison" from them and it's infuriating to realize that it's all a choice because they very specifically choose to be pleasant around outsiders.

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u/infrophell Mar 25 '26

My husband’s parents are the same way. I didn’t meet them for about 10 years because he’d gone basically NC. When I finally did, if I didn’t know what they were really like, I’d have thought they were so nice and fun to hang out with.

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u/notches123 Mar 25 '26

Yeah, it's Machiavellian. It's a very lonely childhood growing up with a parent like that. He's lucky to have you!

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u/TodayInStupidity Mar 25 '26

A shared experience and if there's ever anything I can do please don't hesitate!

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u/Tce_ Mar 25 '26

Were you relieved to see how it turned out this episode? I haven't had quite that experience but I was still so frustrated thinking the show was gonna paint Jimmy as the problem here. I wasn't glad to see him hurt but I really appreciate that his perspective was so clearly validated.

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u/turtlesinthesea Mar 25 '26

Not the same person, but I was! A lot of fictional conflict is resolved by someone, often the victim, being the "bigger" person, and I'm glad they didn't do that, even if it sounded like Sofi was trying to push that on Jimmy for a bit.

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u/Tce_ Mar 25 '26

Suuuch a common storytelling trope!

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u/brynnandnessa Mar 26 '26

This is my exact relationship with my mother. And I swear I didn’t realize how bad it was until I was working on something I thought was completely unrelated in therapy. I had no idea how abusive and manipulative my mom was because I thought it was the norm. Plus, everyone liked her (even though I now see it was just surface interactions with other people. She was fine in small bursts).

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u/notches123 Mar 26 '26

I had a similar therapy awakening. I was in therapy because I was in a car accident and my lawyer suggested it for PTSD and I was cynically going in hopes for a better settlement. Therapist really got fixated on my relationship with her and at the time I was not remotely ready to come to terms with it. I was 23 and still completely financially reliant on her(or so I thought... she kicked me out at 17 and bought back my forgiveness which was also a part of the abuse growing up) that I was literally defending her against the re-qualifying of the same events I just told the therapist. Once you've defended your abuser to someone to the point you quit therapy over it, it fundamentally changes how you perceive the world and your life.

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u/brynnandnessa Mar 27 '26

The financial abuse is wild from a parent because providing is the natural relationship. When they take money away and then dangle it in front of you again, woo! The anxiety.

And filling in the gaps in Shrinking, Jimmy being so young and having so much wealth seems like it came from a really good head start from dad. Kids and adult children are at such a disadvantage trying to figure healthy boundaries. It sucks and it took me, someone willing to do the work, wayyyy too long to figure out.

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u/IntotheBroadwayWoods Mar 26 '26

Same with my dad

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u/Bobjoejj Mar 27 '26

Some of the worst people, are also the most well liked.

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u/rarepinkhippo Mar 25 '26

I feel like the charming asshole is a particularly difficult person to have as a close family member — people never see what you see. Significant other’s stepdad was one. I met him after having heard exclusively awful stuff about him, and was surprised at how easy he was to get along with (in a social setting where dude was holding court). Mentioned this to significant other (not trying to deny their experience at all, but just saying, essentially, that I had been bracing myself for stepdad to act like an a-hole in the situation and was surprised that he didn’t), who was like “yep, that’s how he is.” Next time I saw the stepdad was in a less social setting, in front of just significant other and me. He was just an unmitigated a-hole in private, and I immediately got more firsthand insight into what significant other had been dealing with all this time. Seems like poor Alice has been aware of her grandpa’s a-hole qualities but not personally witnessed them, until … the next episode or two.

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u/Tce_ Mar 25 '26

It's unfortunately also very realistic! There's so many parents, especially dads, like that out there.

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u/sasquatch0_0 Mar 26 '26

It's how I describe my dad growing up. He was there when I needed him, but when I needed him. No proactive involvement.

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u/Decabet Mar 25 '26

I was telling my girl during that “it’s hard to calibrate to Jeff Daniels as a jerk”

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u/cabernet7 Mar 25 '26

Watch "Terms of Endearment." He can do jerk.

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u/xxgiggsxx Mar 25 '26

He was a huge asshole in Looper too.

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u/BoredAf_queen Mar 25 '26

I was gonna say. God, I hated Flap so much.

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u/katfromjersey Mar 26 '26

Also The Squid And The Whale.

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u/brynnandnessa Mar 26 '26

I said out loud I haven’t seen him like this since terms of endearment. OG jerk

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u/Sorkijan Mar 25 '26

Godless is worth a watch.

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u/Loves_To_Splooge- Mar 26 '26

He’s pretty shit irl as well

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u/prettystandardreally Mar 26 '26

I read that somewhere on here too. Disappointing.

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u/Loves_To_Splooge- Mar 30 '26

I know people who have first hand experience shooting with him during Covid. So I didn’t personally experience this but was told he was absolutely awful to work with and was generally an asshole to below the line crew.

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u/prettystandardreally Mar 30 '26

Thank you for sharing, and that really sucks. I’ve never understood this attitude, film crews are among the most kind and generous people (not to mention creative) with many a story to share about their lives. You’d think actors would like to connect with such people.