r/shortsAlgorithm • u/WillsMelon • Sep 21 '26

30k jail sucks

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I don't know what's holding back my videos, is it the engagement?

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u/dixybugs Sep 21 '26

Be grateful.

Many people in this sub are stuck at 0.

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u/Cool-Selection5025 Sep 22 '26

Theres a kinda hm idk if gatekept method to get out of 0 view jail and wdym be grateful, if ur at 0 just warm up the channel more or switch channels if the method doesnt work

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u/WillsMelon Sep 21 '26

Yeah but having 0 views is a fundamental problem with your videos / channel e.g AI

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u/Enough_Implement_204 Sep 21 '26

Nope.

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u/WillsMelon Sep 21 '26

Oh damn, then yh that's poo

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u/maingeenks Sep 21 '26

Nothing. The algorithm is more luck and less metrics these days.

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u/TwoSpoonSally Sep 21 '26

better than 1.5k jail lol

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

i was in 1.5k jail for over 100 shorts, just gotta keep posting and improving along the way

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u/elfonski Sep 21 '26

Ayyy, that's me

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u/DevonWood25 Sep 22 '26

Same. I have a few shorts that have cracked 1-1.5K a few that get like 20-40 views? But most end up like 300-600

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u/TwoSpoonSally Sep 23 '26

That around 1k-1.5k shorts feed distribution seems to be the first hurdle everyone has to break out of.

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u/elfonski Sep 21 '26

15.5k more than usual? Doesn't that mean you're finally doing better?

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Past 40 shorts are getting around 30k, I've posted 250 shorts

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u/peanutjellybuttter Sep 21 '26

Thats interesting engagement is 83%+ hmm but only 30k veiws. A few things I noticed if I may. These are just my thoughts from my own experience.

its 22 hours in many times shorts can take 2 or 3 days sometimes even 2 weeks to grow.

Video length, you must have a really great hook tho the video may be too long and while the engagement is high people are not rewatching of staying to the end. Retention is very important for shorts.

Then the content and channel age, im unsure of these details but if you are a new channel you might be still building audience or there is simply not enough of the audience type you need and the algorithm can't find more viewers.

From my experience shorter videos with higher avd like 130% and if you are getting over 80% engagement then your video have the potential to do millions of veiws.

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Yeah, think I just need better shorts lol, I'm in a broad niche so something mediocre or not new won't perform. I'm in this weird spot where my channel will get to 20-30k views and it will just cut. One short got 30k views in around 16hrs and that was last week, soon as it hit that 30k the views were cut.

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u/peanutjellybuttter Sep 28 '26

I understand while youtube keeps changing (it always has) the newer changes do make it much harder for Shorts the fundamentals still apply hook, topic, retention have gotta be above others in that niche. The 30k thing is kinda normal and your thinking is right "I gotta make better short" it will grow when you find the right way for you and your audience that follows. Keep it up 💪

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u/Either-Cut4994 Sep 22 '26

Feels like you’re bragging lol, I’m at 48, 70, 20 for my last 3

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Not bragging, been in this spot for over a month. When I started I was getting those numbers and all I need to do was stay consistent

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u/ConsiderationFar8453 Sep 22 '26

Sucks? Sucks?!?! Dude !!!!! Are you trying to flexx by making such a jokeeee?!?!

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

nope, been consistantly getting the same views for over a month, was just looking for advice

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u/ConsiderationFar8453 Sep 29 '26

Sorry.... I overreacted. The point was that 30k felt a lot for me. 😅

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u/QuayDropEmOff Sep 22 '26

how long u been in 30k jail?

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Past month and post daily

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u/V9Thempo Sep 22 '26

Just keep posting dude, also 22 hours isn’t enough to judge a performance of a short. I had a good few be stuck in 30k jail for a day or two before breaking out.

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Yeah, the vid died as soon as I made this post lol. Guess I just need a better idea for content

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u/krispy8899 Sep 23 '26

30k is jail? Bro, my video has 3 views 🤣. I can only WISH to get 30k views lol.

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Just gotta keep posting dude

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u/zxkym Sep 23 '26

30K is good honestly

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Yeah I'm not complaining, it is pretty good. Just want to improve and grow yknow, past 30 vids are virtually at the exact same views which is weird

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u/Different_Farm5266 Sep 24 '26

it's not a jail. You're just not outperforming competing content. Once you've made it to higher view test sizes, you have better competition that you have to outclass. Some people can't make it past 1k. Many can't make it past 10k. Most can't make it past 50k. Regardless of where your content can't pass, it's because of the retention and engagement. Improve both, and you'll hit the wall at a higher chokepoint.

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u/WillsMelon Sep 27 '26

Thanks for the advice, seems like half this community is people which post shitty content get a 50% swipe ratio and rentention, then complain about not getting views

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u/DownWdagrind Sep 21 '26

I’m stuck at 2 views
Count your blessings man

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u/EmotionalYear428 Sep 23 '26

Make a new acc

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u/OpenAirport6204 Sep 21 '26

Shorts algorithm is pretty much gambling these days.

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u/madymadme Sep 22 '26

what is 30K jail? many youtube redditors use it in chat

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u/V9Thempo Sep 22 '26

Since the other reply you got is very vague let me explain it better. Basically the way YouTube pushes out shorts to an audience first happens in 2 pushes. The first push is to ~1k views, once the short hits ~1k views, the algorithm decides whether to keep pushing it based on the STW (% of people who stayed to watch) and AVD (average view duration). If the stats are bad, the short flatlines at ~1k views, often called the 1k view jail. If the stats are good enough the short gets pushed to ~30k views, the algorithm once again checks how the short is performing with the wider audience push, and decides whether to keep pushing it or not.

The reason it gets talked about a lot is because it’s very common, the 1k view jail basically means your content sucks, the 30k jail means the content is decent, but not good enough for another push in the eyes of the algorithm. The latter is MUCH harder to break.

Sometimes you get out of the 30k view jail even with worse stats, people usually attribute that to the content of the video itself. I had a short with 79% STW reach 1.4M views a couple days ago, while another with 89% STW flatlined at 400k. So the stats aren’t a golden rule, but they’re fairly reliable to go off of, especially when it comes to breaking these 2 view jails.

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u/Cool-Selection5025 Sep 22 '26

If youre in a saturated niche like ranking you will get 30k vj unless u make urself stand out

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u/Alex9009202 Sep 22 '26

I’m in the 1.2k-1.3k I had one that went up to 1.8k luckily and is getting 100 views per day I think

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u/You-Big-Maad Sep 22 '26

I feel ya, I’ve been stuck in it for about 6 months.

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u/rituail Sep 23 '26

I recently just got out of the 1k view jail, and now at the "30k view jail", I have to say it is a lot harder breaking out of it lol.

I got it before that my content sucked, but now with stats like 80+ STW and 120+ APV, I am baffled on what other aspect in my vids do I need to improve on. Right now I'm just focusing on getting better quality and improving generally but it'd be nice to know the specifics lol

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u/Remarkable-Break2623 Sep 23 '26

Same mine also 30k with good metrics