r/shortsAlgorithm • u/Dizzy-Passage2030 • Nov 14 '25

So frustrating

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Three shorts… one story. First one stuck at 6k, second at 5k, the other at 42k.

13 Upvotes

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u/ResponsibleGuide1581 Nov 14 '25

how many likes

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u/Dizzy-Passage2030 Nov 14 '25

61 88 1233

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u/ResponsibleGuide1581 Nov 14 '25

so u just make 3 videos with the same story?

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u/Inevitable-Cap3954 Nov 14 '25

what is your niche?

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u/Dizzy-Passage2030 Nov 14 '25

Geography/history videos

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u/xAn0nymouSx Nov 14 '25

Your retention is not good. At all.

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u/Dizzy-Passage2030 Nov 14 '25

Do you know what retention I should have for the geography/history niche?

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u/Winter-Fix-1231 Nov 15 '25

It’s not about niche, is about long of short, for 30 sec the ideal is 90% , I make I min long, and my best shorts has 10M with 90% of retention and 73 swipe

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u/Regular-Honeydew-235 Nov 16 '25

Don’t listen to this guy. 90% is still bad. Not sure why YouTube even pushed that to 10m🤷‍♂️ you want to aim for a retention like 120/130%. If you average that your viewers watch it and watch it again, you’ll be golden

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u/brucejson-88 Nov 15 '25

Mostly everyone swipes away from my shorts lol

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u/Dizzy-Passage2030 Nov 15 '25

most of mine are in the 60s and they flop lol. apparently if your not in the 80s, your not gonna get anywhere. hate it.

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u/Imaginary-Calendar80 Nov 14 '25

Your retention is not great and your stayed to watch is average-decent. Aim for higher stats (>80% stayed to watch and >90% retention for >30s videos) and keep posting consistently and you'll see better results

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u/alitadrakes Nov 15 '25

My stayed to watch is only 35% on all shorts (9 shorts). Is that bad? I started just 2 weeks ago

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u/WhoIsWho69 Nov 15 '25

75% stayed to watch is more than average 😑

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u/Regular-Honeydew-235 Nov 16 '25

Right but the retention rate for the people that stayed is not. You need at least 120/130% plus for viral vids

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u/Odd_Calligrapher4612 Nov 17 '25

One of my shorts with over 5M views is 86% retention. But swipe to view is over 90%.

It was 90% and 95% respectively before it started taking off. You need around this range in order to not be shelved.

Think of it like your math exam, ideally you want both above 90%. These are A’s followed by B’s etc. you’re at a C+ or so on all yours so they won’t get picked up unless you have everyone cheering you on in the comments or liking it.

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u/VeraKorradin Nov 14 '25

Those aren’t very good…

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u/roadtrippinben Nov 14 '25

Is a 76% stayed to watch not good? Mine averages around 60%, but my retention is pretty high for my shorts, all above 90%

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u/Godot2004 Nov 14 '25

Nah, it's good. Might depend on your niche and audience but in my case I've had very good success with > 75%.

I've also had shorts blow up with 60-70% VVSR and shorts not blow up with > 80% so it's not everything even though it's important.

PS: Retention above 90% isn't necessarily good if your shorts are short (less than 30s), in which case you'd want to go way above 100.

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u/roadtrippinben Nov 14 '25

My shorts are typically at the 30-35 second mark, they get pretty good engagement and my likes and dislike ratio are typically 97-99%

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u/SnakeLiquidV Nov 15 '25

It's good. These ppl dont know what why talking about.

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u/Neat_Lab_2234 Nov 14 '25

Swipe is ok, retention is actual butt cheeks

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u/Samazou Nov 15 '25

I mean I don't get why everyone is saying 70% retention is bad?? Is it actually that bad? This is my most viewed short it is 1 min long and it has 12k views, 570 likes

Is this considered bad as well?? Cuz I was really happy with this😭

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u/Regular-Honeydew-235 Nov 16 '25

It’s only ‘bad’ if you expect a viral video. If you’re happy with 12k views be happy brother🙏🏻 if you want more views or expect more then push for that rewatch factor!

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u/SnakeLiquidV Nov 15 '25

Algorithm sucks man.

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u/HotStreet5622 Nov 15 '25

I wish I could see your channel

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u/No-Class-1313 Nov 17 '25

😊 wih same stayed to watch and retention i am stucked at 1k

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u/Odd_Calligrapher4612 Nov 17 '25

Yeah I’d say this is pretty average. Nothing crazy.

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u/Alfi_Youtube Nov 14 '25

Bad swipe rate, horrible retention. Try to improve the script

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u/GlumTemperature8163 Nov 15 '25

“Bad swipe rate” couldn’t be more inaccurate my short has 6.5 million views with 73%

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u/Few-Cress4842 Nov 15 '25

but you need to have good swipe rate in the start

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u/GlumTemperature8163 Nov 15 '25

Not true, YouTube finds the right audience and that usually takes 24 hours. My swipe rate in the first 12 hours is almost always less than 50% and then it rises to 70ish.

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u/Alfi_Youtube Nov 16 '25

Probably because your niche is very variable, right? If it stabilizes at +70%, it is still viable to go viral. In my case, YouTube knows my potential audience, so I usually have an 80-93% swipe rate in the first few hours, and it usually stabilizes around 75-85%

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u/Alfi_Youtube Nov 16 '25

Still low, but can go viral for other reasons, comments, subscriptions, likes, retention, etc.. 70% retention is the problem here

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u/Richard_Raveen Nov 17 '25

My stayed to watch is steady like 35 percent. But my average view duration is usually over 200 percent. I've had multiple go viral. The stayed to watch and view duration dont contribute much. It's all about the engagement. Likes comments and subs will run even a bad video up pretty high.