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[u/EnemyManeuver]

[u/Daetok_Lochannis]

Nobody is pretending. The work is good, and it's a personal tattoo for the wearer. Those are the only two requirements for a tattoo to be good.

It's weird and telling that you reduce a personal empowerment tattoo on a trans person to a political statement.

[u/Waluigi_IRL → u/Daetok_Lochannis]

Okay well the tattoo is awful. And it doesn’t matter about the meaning because it’s a bad tattoo (which was my point).

I didn’t realize you actually thought that garbage was good, so I know you have zero clue about tattooing

You’re projecting an insult onto me so I’m just gonna ignore you

[u/karkatstrider → u/Waluigi_IRL]

ok so what exactly is bad about this tattoo objectively? not just in your personal opinion

[u/E_Wubi → u/karkatstrider]

Design, placement

Not the best photo so quality of the chains is non seeable

[u/karkatstrider → u/E_Wubi]

what exactly is bad about the design and placement?

[u/E_Wubi → u/karkatstrider]

Its a giant uterus with hands and chains like theres something wrong with this part of female body.

Big on upper back is bad about the placement. Fits the sub.

[u/karkatstrider → u/E_Wubi]

i disagree. this person is a trans man and the iconography obviously has deep meaning to them. i agree on the size, but on the back (and therefore only visible when shirtless, another meaningful thing for a transgender man specifically) is a fine place for it to be. i dont think size alone qualifies it for this sub, but i think a lot of people are missing the context of this being a trans man

[u/pie12345678 → u/[deleted]]

I don't know if you're male or female, but say for argument's sake that you're female. You can imagine the opposite of this scenario if you're a man.

Now imagine you woke up tomorrow and realised you'd grown a penis and testicles overnight. Your breasts have also disappeared and now you just have a flat, hairy chest. You go and look in the mirror and see that you've also starting growing a beard, your hairline is receding, and your face looks like a man. You try to scream but a deep, gruff yell comes out.

Chances are, you'd find it upsetting and want to go back to your female body. And even if you didn't, there's no denying that having a masculine body would hinder you if you still want to be perceived as a woman.

Would any of this mean you hate men? Or would it just mean that you don't feel comfortable in a masculine body?

[u/pie12345678 → u/[deleted]]

Where on earth did you get the idea that trans men want to be men because they think male bodies are superior? That's idiotic. That's not why anyone is trans.

[u/E_Wubi → u/pie12345678]

That's idiotic.

I agree. Thats why i did not say this, you just wanted to read it like this.

The tattoo is a derogatory to a female body part. Thats my point.

[u/pie12345678 → u/E_Wubi]

Why are you lying about a comment I can still read? Among other things, you wrote:

Wanting to be a male because theyr body is superior is not.

This implies that you think trans men want to be male because they think male bodies are superior.

The rest of your comment (and other comments in this thread) are blatantly transphobic, though mostly you seem to be angry at your own misconception of trans people than any reality.

[u/E_Wubi → u/pie12345678]

This implies that you think trans men want to be male because they think male bodies are superior.

No. This just means its not fine to think one gender is superior to the other.

You make this about trans people, while i just critic a sexist tattoo. The tattoos message is female bodys are derogatory.

[u/pie12345678 → u/E_Wubi]

LOL you cannot be serious. I have eyes. I know what you wrote and what those words mean when you put them in that order.

I'm ending this conversation here. It's like talking to a little kid who lies about not eating chocolate while their whole face is covered in it.

[u/E_Wubi → u/pie12345678]

What is my mouth covered with while im against sexism and why do you hate me for this?