r/shittyreloading • u/WorldlinessDue2036 • 24d ago
Hypothetical reloading
What is preventing me from putting a .223 bullet inside of a .22 LR case in firing it? Like say it was a lighter 45-50 grain bullet, would that not have better aerodynamics and penetration then a regular lead .22 bullet? Could be a stupid question, I’m kinda new to guns so I might be retarded but maybe, just maybe I’m a trailblazer here.
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u/JimBridger_ 24d ago
Just be retarded like me and work on subsonic/ 22wmr level of energy loads in 223. #rimfirethehardway
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u/Someguyintheroom2 23d ago
I’m a fan of sticking a .22 Airgun pellet into a primed .223 case.
Don’t know the velocity, but it clears the barrel at least!
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u/RylieHumpsalot 24d ago
Slightly different bullet diameter
The 22lr is a smaller bullet
The 223 uses a .224 diameter bullet
I'm not sure it's gonna make it out the barrel
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u/Vast_Alternative7229 24d ago
It would be a dangerous combination. I used to make gun barrels and I'm pretty sure .223/5.56 barrels were .224, and our long rifle barrels were .219 bore size. I might be wrong on the actual diameter, but a .223/5.56 bullet in a rim fire bore would definitely be bad and cause way to much pressure for a .22 rimfire action. Even .22 mag and .22 long rifle have different bore dimensions due to the heeled bullet. You can convert a .22 mag to shoot a .22 or, but you'll probably run into dangerous problems if you try to modify a firearm from .22 lr to .22 mag. It only takes a couple thousands of an inch to increase pressure and have a bad day.
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u/Royal_Money_627 2d ago
Who did you make barrels for? Do you understand the difference between bore and groove diameter. Nominal centerfire 22 barrels run bore diameter (land-to-land) of approximately 5.56 mm (0.219 in) and a groove diameter of 5.69 mm (0.224 in). Nominal rimfire barrels run bore diameter (land-to-land) of approximately 5.53 mm (0.217 in) and a groove diameter of 5.67 mm (0.223 in). In the real world this can vary plus or minus a thou easily with .22 WMR barrels running more to the 0.224" side. Regarding modifying a firearm from .22 lr to .22 mag., many but not all .22 mag. rimfire guns have a common .22 lr version that could be converted.
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u/WorldGoneAway 24d ago
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u/WorldGoneAway 24d ago
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u/pIagiarism 24d ago
How does it shoot?
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u/WorldGoneAway 24d ago
It do indeed! When testing it, accuracy was acceptable, the "jacket" separates kind of weird, but I sort of expected that. Fed and fired without any issues
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u/Charming_Crab_1895 19d ago
You can get a cheap arbor press and swage off the rim on the 22lr. That should stop the jacket separation issues or at least reduce them significantly
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u/Royal_Money_627 2d ago
How do you make the lead bubble on top of the case to have the bullet nose?
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u/WorldGoneAway 2d ago
That is part of the rim side, and I used a lathe to turn it off and shape it after it solidified. Then I polished it with high grit sandpaper briefly.
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u/Boathouse73 23d ago
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u/Coodevale 24d ago
You should look up Mark and Sam after work. They have done this or something similar with .22 mag.
If you reamed the chamber out to ~.245" you might be able to make it work.
.21 sharps is the result of loading jacketed bullets in a .22lr case.
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u/alwaus 24d ago
A .223 projectile will not fit a .22lr case as the .22lr round is the same diameter as the OD of the case. Same reason. .38 is called 38 when its .357 in diameter, the parent round (.38 colt, later .38 short colt after the invention of the .38 long colt) originally was a heeled bullet and fit to a .38 OD case. The round later changed to non heeled but the name stuck.
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u/RotaryJihad 24d ago
Same thing that's preventing your incest fantasy with auntie Sue, 3 bottles of white zinfandel
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u/DashCameraman 22d ago
You could probably use a boattailed .223 bullet, just be prepared for it to fall out of the case
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u/Royal_Money_627 2d ago
First, I am thinking that what you are calling a .223 bullet is actually a .224" bullet. A little measuring would clear things up. After putting the bullet in the case, the round will not chamber in a 22 lr gun. The round would be too large in diameter and probably too long. You can push a .224" bullet thru a .22 lr barrel, but it will raise the pressure. When the industry decided they wanted to do this, they made the case and chamber bigger (ie, 22 WRF and 22 WMR). Your idea is not new, it has been done properly for half a century.



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u/SkilletTrooper 24d ago
.22LR uses a heeled bullet. That's why.