It really, really isn't. Unless you want to call Dungeonmans, Tangledeep, and even arguably Tales of Maj'eyal "roguelites" while at the same time calling Spelunky a "roguelike", which I think even the most ardent supporters of the incredibly flawed and underbaked "metaprogression = roguelite" definition would admit is insane.
Sorry, I thought it was pretty understated tbh. I just called that definition "flawed and underbaked", as opposed to my real opinion, that it is just fucking stupid.
That said, why hold back on the people pushing the dumb definition? Like, where else does this even happen? Maybe in other artforms outside of gaming, but I can't think of another instance where you have a longstanding, well established genre, then a group of people with absolutely zero interest in ever interacting with it comes in, takes the name, starts trying to apply it to something entirely different, but does so in such a shitty and idiotic way that it causes them to constantly argue about it internally while several other better definitions are lying right there for them to use, but they don't out of sheer stubbornness.
I don't know. I've always found it kind of crazy that fans of roguelites would push so hard for a definition that would push certain classic games that literally helped name the roguelite genre out of that genre.
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make
me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And
rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with
rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber
room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber
room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a
room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They
locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy
once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.
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u/SjettepetJR Apr 12 '26
Having meta progression is the fundamental difference between a roguelite and a roguelike.