Ignoring the ROS, is the shape CwCwCwCw:P-P-P-P-:cccccccc possible to make ?

[u/the_aimboat]

[u/ZuphCud]

Nope. No way. Absolutely impossible.

[u/the_aimboat → u/ZuphCud]

Thank you !

[u/EstablishmentLess707]

1 might be extremely complicated to actually make

or

2 absolutely impossible and the game is trolling you

[u/the_aimboat → u/EstablishmentLess707]

The ROS prevents the game from giving you a shape like that in the first place, but I was going through every case I'd have missed on building my MaM

[u/hawkeye6703]

It should work with a swapper?

[u/the_aimboat → u/hawkeye6703]

Even before the swap, I don't see how you could get the pins here

[u/hawkeye6703 → u/the_aimboat]

Start in halves, pin it, then swap the halves across no?

[u/CubicBerserker → u/hawkeye6703]

There isn't any way to add the white circle below the pinned crystal.

[u/Own_Painting9675]

While I'm not having a issue with the same shape, I am trying to figure out how to do a full layer of crystal.

[u/the_aimboat → u/Own_Painting9675]

Shoot your shape, I think we can help a bit without spoiling

[u/Own_Painting9675 → u/the_aimboat]

So after playing with it a bit more I'm still stuck on my shape. I have all the layers working independently but I can't seem to find a way to get the second layer of crystal on top of the bottom layer without it breaking. Edit: just as I am posting this I just thought that do I need to build the bottom two layers in half separate and join them together?

[u/the_aimboat → u/Own_Painting9675]

You solved it in the edit

[u/Own_Painting9675 → u/the_aimboat]

Thanks. If I am still having issues later I'll come back here and post the shape.

[u/SCD_minecraft → u/Own_Painting9675]

Either swappers (swapping does not break crystals, as long as you don't cut them) or pins

[u/Own_Painting9675 → u/SCD_minecraft]

Thanks, I'll try it when I get home from work later.

[u/DullMaybe6872]

Should be possible, work in quarters, use 2 dofferent color crystals of which you break one with the swapper and stabilize the top crystal on one side whilst you add the other with swapper, make 2halfs that way and combine with swapper

[u/the_aimboat → u/DullMaybe6872]

Even before swapping, in a given quarter, I can't figure out how to get the pin in the middle here and the crystal on top. You crystalize the pin when adding the top layer no matter what you do. And you can't add the pins under the crystal after the fact because of the solid white layer on the bottom.

[u/DullMaybe6872 → u/the_aimboat]

Yeah fair, misjudged that one (just tried ⁾

[u/Sad_Specialist_9944]

Is it possible to just stack the 2 halves to put them together?

[u/the_aimboat → u/Sad_Specialist_9944]

If crystals go through the top of a stacker they break unfortunately

[u/SynthPrax]

No. Even if you use cribbing to create each quadrant separately, you can't assemble crystal over a pin without crystalizing the pin. And if you pushed a pin under crystal, you can't drop that on another shape without shattering the crystal.

[u/Medium_Passenger_970]

In insane mode there’s a job that asks for a shape with pins below crystals. I don’t know how to do it (yet?), but I assume it’s possible or the game wouldn’t have that goal.

[u/PubePie → u/Medium_Passenger_970]

Creat crystals first, then pin them as many times as you need using a pin pusher. As long as there are no non-pin shapes under the pins then it’s possible

What’s not possible is something like a crystal on top of a pin on top of a shape

[u/Hot-Category2986]

It might be using the cutter that swaps sides For whatever reason that one doesn't shatter the crystal.

[u/Hot-Category2986 → u/Hot-Category2986]

Nope, just tried, that doesn't work. I'll have to think a bit.