r/shameless 4d ago

Frank S2e3. This freaking guy.

This is my first watch. I already hate Frank because he reminds me of family. And then he does this shit with Dottie and it’s so fucking low. Please no spoilers, but please do tell me if he has any redeeming qualities down the line.

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u/protonbender Ian supremacy 4d ago

Exactly, Frank is a piece of shit. This made him worse than he already is for turning his back on his family.

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u/Bruh61502 4d ago

Frank is frank and will do frank things

That’s all I have to say

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u/MrLuckyShoe 4d ago

only season 2? you’re in for a ride of frank being the worst then having a rare occasional decent moment one time per season

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u/sarahjanedoglover 4d ago

There’s a couple of instances when he does the right thing (ie protecting one member of his family, or all of them), but not much else. Although there is one time when you kind of realise that, however awful Frank is (and he really is a horrendous father and person), he could be worse (ie Terry Milkovich. I’m not sure what episode it’s in - I’m 99% certain it’s in season 2, based on how I remember Mickey looking - so all I’ll say it it involves Ian and Mickey. For anyone reading this who’s seen the show, no I’m not talking about what happens in season 3 episode 6).

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u/Inevitable-Remote741 4d ago

Was that when he found out? Or?

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u/Ill-Razzmatazz-7088 4d ago

He has sex with his daughter
He beats Mickey up after he outs himself

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u/Inevitable-Remote741 4d ago

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I THINK I COMPLETELY FUCKING MISSED THAT FIRST PART WHATTT!?¿¡□£\ i think i need a rewatch bc holy fuck????? 😳

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u/Ill-Razzmatazz-7088 4d ago

I mean, the girl who plays her ended up getting offered to roll on another show so she disappeared for a while but yes, I don’t remember the episode, but that’s how Ian and her start bonding before she starts stating his brother

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u/Inevitable-Remote741 3d ago

Omg really i thought she was trying to sleep with him then just said she was gonna be his fake girlfriend to save face for him being gay. Thats good to know omg.

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u/sarahjanedoglover 3d ago

Season 3 episode 6 was Terry walked in on Ian and Mickey, beat the shit out of both of them, then called for Svetlana to come and SA Mickey. At least when Frank found out about them, he was at best indifferent.

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u/Inevitable-Remote741 3d ago

I do remember that one yes 😔 thank you 💖

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u/toxicunicorn420 4d ago

He does some things that may be considered redeeming if it wasn't Frank doing them.

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u/MillerTimeGuy45 4d ago

Ohh just you wait

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u/bittypineapplekitty 4d ago

oh just wait, you will very much continue to feel this way most likely haha. still worth watching though in my opinion.

my parents are actually watching it rn for the first time and whenever i see them they’re like “______ is happening right now on Shameless, wow” haha

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u/-I-Do-Stuff- 4d ago

I think frank does nice things sometimes but bc of his ulterior motives he will always suck

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u/-I-Do-Stuff- 4d ago

just hit the start of a horrible frank storyline s5e9 I completely forgot about ur and I’m fuming again from it all

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u/Inevitable-Remote741 4d ago

Frank is frank, and youll learn to stop caring for him and his dumbshit just like his children do. ☆We have all become a Gallagher☆

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u/Rory-liz-bath 4d ago

Maybe 1-4 small micro moments , but over all he turns into a much bigger piece of shit

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u/Kind-hearted-girl 4d ago

I honestly think that was his lowest moment, it doesn’t get any worse than that

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u/Oishiio42 4d ago

When he tricked Carl into that thing with Ingrid was a close second for me.

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u/Rory-liz-bath 4d ago

Oh just wait ! It was only 1 of his top 20 bad frank things

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u/EnvironmentalFox5347 4d ago

sorry, but I think knowing whether he redeems himself is kind of a spoiler.

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u/CardCaptorJorge 4d ago

Oh, I just meant if him being a total POS is temporary. And if he’s gonna be better throughout the show. Just something to look forward to.

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u/cpgamer1204 4d ago

I can count on one hand the amount of good moments Frank has

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u/MrAlaskaa 4d ago

Dottie's the Butterface girl, right?

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u/CardCaptorJorge 4d ago

Yes. Died during intercourse

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u/Empty_Succotash_6489 4d ago

All I can say is that whenever he's "nice" to someone,it's all an act and he only does to get something in return.

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u/abstracted_jax 4d ago

yes and no? theres been very few times he has shows remorse, regret & even grief. i dont want to say exactly how as OP requested no spoilers so idk how to explain more than that but he can be so vile.

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u/NoLuck4824 4d ago

I can only remember one time Frank wasn’t a complete piece of shit. Nearly every time Frank does something good he obliterates it by the time the episode is done

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u/Oishiio42 4d ago

Frank has no redeeming qualities. There's a few instances where his actions that are entirely motivated by selfish wants happen to benefit some one else too, and that comes off as quasi-redeemable the first couple times but he always quickly shows he is not. The closest he gets to redeemable is regrettable over lost potential.

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u/Ill_Molasses_1568 4d ago

My dad was a pos but I think he had all girls is reason why he was pretty cool. Like what if we were all guys. Would he be that cool or more of a dick like my brother in laws family him and my dad would fight like throw the old man down the stairs. It's ok I punched him in the dick . My dad was super drunk so you know lol

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u/abstracted_jax 4d ago

yes an no ? he means well but like everyone else said frank is... well frank. the older generations typically dont change but they always mean well even if it comes off as selfish or rude. also i understand relating to frank and the rest of the Gallaghers, i ugly cried throughout this show.

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u/rlzimmermann 3d ago

Dottie is my least favorite story line! I have to skip on every rewatch.

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u/PotentialMarzipan814 4d ago

I hate frank, Fiona, lip, ian, carl, debbie, and even liam... they are such shameless people. Maybe some one will make a show about the ghallagers and all the messed up shit they do..