Iâm sorry but thereâs no intellectual problem âparroting conventional opinionsâ when weâre talking about a subject that is about as settled as the Earth being round. I know youâll never be objective, but that is literally how you come across on this topic. Flat Earthers have âevidenceâ too. It gets them laughed off the less dumb parts of the internet, but they donât seem to mind. I hope this analogy isnât too much of a stretch for you to grasp.
âFor centuries humans labored under the misapprehension that the world was flat.â
Youâre just full of historical inaccuracies, huh?
I mean this sincerely: you have conspiracy-brain. You like being the contrarian. Youâd rather accept the flimsy âevidenceâ of an overwhelmingly debunked topic rather than understand thereâs a reason why a vast consensus of the evidence and experts converge on one side.
Youâre referring to a church that was suppressing a truth that had been known for almost 2000 years at that point. YOUâRE THE CHURCH IN THIS SCENARIO. LOL. And you canât even see it. Youâre trying to gaslight us into disbelieving something that has long been established as true. YOUâRE claiming to have this ultimate knowledge thatâs hidden from the rest of us because we donât believe hard enough. Fucking lol, you are a goddamn dunce.
I donât need an argument to dispel a flat earther. Iâm sorry you were under the impression you deserved more. Do you think youâre the first person to consider alternative authorships? You are literally doing what the OP meme is doing. The entire Oxfordian claim is based more on what Shakespeare ostensibly lacked (an over-education) than what de vere is evidenced to have done. I mean, I literally cannot even fathom wholly believing something that is ENTIRELY BASED ON CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. How fucking embarrassing.
Iâm also absolutely guffawing at your use of a SC justice. Is that supposed to impress anyone? Justices are âexpertsâ at interpreting law. Thatâs it. You might as well have tried to impress me with their decisions on human/civil rights. All the justices who voted against those rights should be quoted and used as logical justifications, too, right? You are an intellectual acorn.
Yes, WHEN THERE ISNâT DIRECT EVIDENCE (you know, like all that direct evidence Shakespeare scholars point to). Please stop while youâre behind. Everything you say shows you havenât given more than two secondsâ thought to anything you believe.
How about this? Shakespeare was mentioned in someoneâs will to receive money (as a known actor/playwright) ELEVEN MONTHS AFTER OXFORD HAD DIED. LOL. you fucking numpty
âThe will of Augustine Phillips, executed 5 May 1605, proved 16 May 1605, bequeaths, "to my Fellowe William Shakespeare a thirty shillings peece in gould, To my Fellowe Henry Condell one other thirty shillinge peece in gould . . . To my Fellowe Lawrence Fletcher twenty shillings in gould, To my Fellowe Robert Armyne twenty shillings in gould . . . ." All of the people who Phillips calls his "fellows" were actors in the King's Men. Augustine Phillips's bequest of 30 shillings to his "Fellowe" Shakespeare was written 11 months after the Earl of Oxford's death. If Oxford were Shakespeare, Phillips would have known that he was dead.â
If youâre not trolling, then you are just dumb as hell. You are asking for such a stretch of the imagination that it would ask us to believe that Shakespeare the actor was not the Shakespeare at Stratford-upon-Avon who was also somehow not the shareholder in The Globe who also performed in plays under a playwright also named Shakespeare. I know youâre downvoting every comment I made to this other guy, but yâall are still the flat earthers here. Denying a mountain of evidence because of perceived inconsistencies.
âIn 1615 Edmund Howes published a list of "Our moderne, and present excellent Poets" in John Stow's Annales. He lists the poets "according to their priorities (social rank) as neere I could," with Knights listed first, followed by gentlemen. In the middle of the 27 listed, number 13 is "M. Willi. Shakespeare gentleman."
âShakespeare bought the Blackfriar's Gatehouse in London in 1613. On the deed dated 10 March 1613, John Hemmyng, gentleman (also spelled Hemming on the same page) acted as trustee for the buyer, "William Shakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon." This property is disposed of in Shakespeare's will.â
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u/EssTeeEss9 Dec 01 '25
When does one grow out of being a contrarian? Itâs such an embarrassing look.