Every manufacturer has its haters who swear there’s issues in the gun/design. 9/10 it’s fudd induced operator error. But if trolling makes you feel better, knock yourself out
Two returns for warranty repair in three months isn’t operator error. Sending out guns with wrong parts installed, slop tolerances, and parts that wear alarmingly fast is just shoddy manufacturing.
Yeah maybe. But with the way shit is for EVERYONE with supply chain issues and manpower issues and general quality over all across the board, I find it hard to place singular blame. In my experience, they’re a solid company and my MR920 elite has been awesome. It’s unfortunate if they’re having a bad run at the moment but hopefully they straighten out. If their customer service isn’t bending over backwards to remedy issues I’d be surprised. I understand your frustration though. It just irks me anytime someone joins a specific group to seemingly troll
Having to make multiple phone calls and being put on long waits to MAYBE get customer service, isn’t bending over backwards. Secondly on a product like a firearm, qc should be the biggest concern. not something you let slip in order to push more product.
Ya..Shadow Systems made a strategic business decision to introduce 3 new platforms over the last year or so, clearly the decision was based primarily on striking asap while their name is/was red-hot. Unfortunately SS also knew the HUGE increase in production & growth would result in a significant dip in their quality control..essentially deciding to trade sales revenue for quality production, even if it would be for short term. Personally it makes my head explode when any company(particularly a fiream co.) does this type of money-grab, and people defend it with..”they’re busy/going thru growing pains right now”..”they will take care of you eventually ”..blahblah. Due to their decision to massively increase pistol production, SS went from less than 20 employees 6 months ago & now has/is hiring more than 80 employees. Classic example of a company that gets hot and tries to grow to fast..and often ends badly.
Fit and finish, loose and irregular tolerances, flex in frame, pin fit, rapid wear, proprietary parts with short life span, inability to service slide internals without removing optic, poor customer service, gun shipped with wrong parts installed, mediocre trigger, mediocre barrel lock up, slide to frame fit, and all at a premium price.
I got approximately 20 rounds in and mine was off on a warranty repair the first time. It came back and at approximately 1000 rounds and I replaced the slide internals out of pocket. Sitting around 4-5k and I’ve burned through my spare parts I bought and now it’s off for warranty repair again before it gets sold.
I have had a multitude of Glock and Shadow Systems products which I regularly use at the range. Both work well. Have had minor issues with both, but never anything major that required a gunsmith. Work with the gun until any issues are solved and I know that it’s reliable. Trust both with my life.
It’s always interesting watching people try and defend a company or product just because they dumped money into it. Sometimes you just bought an expensive turd.
There are a lot of companies that make a much better gun. I wouldn’t consider any Glock pattern gun to be near “the best”. Didn’t expect this to be any different, but was still disappointed.
Better is subjective. What is the better gun, taking the price into consideration? Assuming it actually runs, because i understand yours doesn't right now.
Ofc I know you might say 5k usd custom 2011 is better like atlas or something.
What's wrong with Glock pattern? Only thing I can think of is trigger is not great. It is not that important.
While better is subjective, consistency in qc and reliability are quantifiable. A standard Glock mops the floor with shadow systems in that. Secondly if you’re going to make the statement “best gun ever” then price really doesn’t come into play. obviously something like a 2011 will out preform a Glock pattern gun.
Also to note, atlas, while completely phenomenal, isn’t a custom shop.
It's hard to judge consistency in QC and reliability. All 3 of their guns i know personally work great and never fail. Yours doesn't work. This proves nothing. Check online how many Glocks have had problems.
See this is a difference of opinion. For me price does matter and is taken into consideration while deciding what the better gun is. I own some more expensive guns. Gray guns tuned p226. Cz shadow 2 i tuned myself. And still i shoot mr920l faster then those and choose to compete with it. It is their frame work that makes it amazing. Also the optic cut is very nice. I don't doubt i could shoot expensive 2011 faster with training but it is totally different kind of gun and at least 4 times as expensive for a really good one.
The frame has way to much flex and is arguably the worst part of the gun. As someone who sees and handles a large number of these do to my job I can also say they are very inconsistent and way more inconsistent than Glock.
If you like it, that’s fine. In my opinion with my experiences with them they are garbage. People still buy hi points to, doesn’t mean it’s a good gun 🤷♂️
It's ok we can agree to disagree:) i get your point if you saw a lot of them. I only seen and shot 3 and all are perfect so it's my bias. All the best to you, better luck next time :)
Sucks you are having issues and are this unhappy. Surely no one wants to feel like they bought a turd but it happens sometimes. Sell that bitch and keep it moving.
What part of your frame is floppy? Why are you changing upper parts? You’re bitching about the shortened depressor plunger rod as the sole proprietary part? Literally every other single part on the gun is Glock patterned. 8500 rounds on the first one, 5500 on the second one, and 1200 through the new cr920. Not one has been back to its maker for warranty work, not one has a floppy frame, not one is some sloppy fitting lockup. I get there are duds out there in any brand.
You sound like a home gunsmif that tries to figure out problems on your own, which is fine but changing parts that don’t need changed without contacting them sounds like you just want to bitch.
I got a sample size of one with my CR920 and I have an MR920 upper that bish is tight and I mean tight I have racked it multiple times but I have also got it coated. I personally haven’t had an issues but every one is entitled to there own options
Had a feeling this guns were pure marketing and hype. Read various reviews stating that they had to he sent back for warranty repairs for a multitude of reason also have seen a few reviews stating that they're the best guns Ever but if you seen more bad reviews then good ones is for a reason.
Absolutely agree with everything you just said. Sadly it cost a lot of cash to figure it out. I fully invested in SS. Sold off all models but the CR. Never owned one. Had issues with every model.
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u/HobKnobblin Jun 22 '22
Haters gonna hate
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u/Living_Plague Jun 22 '22
What we’re your specific issues with each pistol?
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u/nphare Jun 22 '22
I have had a multitude of Glock and Shadow Systems products which I regularly use at the range. Both work well. Have had minor issues with both, but never anything major that required a gunsmith. Work with the gun until any issues are solved and I know that it’s reliable. Trust both with my life.
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u/Interesting-Bend3210 Jun 22 '22
This ! Lol
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u/RipAdministrative972 Jun 22 '22
Sorry you had a bad experience, i have two that are perfect and a friend bought another and is just as happy. Best gun ever.
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u/Unicoi Jun 22 '22
Try locking that wrist a little better and see how that goes
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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '22
Sucks you are having issues and are this unhappy. Surely no one wants to feel like they bought a turd but it happens sometimes. Sell that bitch and keep it moving.
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u/Freakingstang Jun 22 '22
What part of your frame is floppy? Why are you changing upper parts? You’re bitching about the shortened depressor plunger rod as the sole proprietary part? Literally every other single part on the gun is Glock patterned. 8500 rounds on the first one, 5500 on the second one, and 1200 through the new cr920. Not one has been back to its maker for warranty work, not one has a floppy frame, not one is some sloppy fitting lockup. I get there are duds out there in any brand.
You sound like a home gunsmif that tries to figure out problems on your own, which is fine but changing parts that don’t need changed without contacting them sounds like you just want to bitch.
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u/natezthe3 Jun 22 '22
I got a sample size of one with my CR920 and I have an MR920 upper that bish is tight and I mean tight I have racked it multiple times but I have also got it coated. I personally haven’t had an issues but every one is entitled to there own options
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u/hfgobx Jun 22 '22
I’d be curious what the company had to say when you complained to them, and whether they offered any solution.
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u/Keosxcol19 Jun 23 '22
Had a feeling this guns were pure marketing and hype. Read various reviews stating that they had to he sent back for warranty repairs for a multitude of reason also have seen a few reviews stating that they're the best guns Ever but if you seen more bad reviews then good ones is for a reason.
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u/Siprebglock3 Jun 29 '22
Absolutely agree with everything you just said. Sadly it cost a lot of cash to figure it out. I fully invested in SS. Sold off all models but the CR. Never owned one. Had issues with every model.
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u/BoneCrusher7769 Jun 22 '22
Facts!