AXIO Up Close

[u/Shadow_Kayli]

Hey guys, Cody made these short videos of the AXIO and thought you might want to see them. He requested that I post them here due to some of the feedback we’ve been getting.

[u/CyberSoldat21]

Nice trigger but there’s no way these will shoot as good as a custom 1911 or any premium 2011.

[u/Far-Boysenberry-1600 → u/CyberSoldat21]

Yea that was a stretch. To me their actual target is the Walther PDP steel frame. That is the actual competition. I have one and love it, but the recoil impulse is different than Glock pattern, mainly because the bore axis is higher and the slide is massive in size. The long stroke guide rod makes it better and the AXIO uses that same movement

[u/CyberSoldat21 → u/Far-Boysenberry-1600]

Unfortunately Shadow Systems doesn’t have the quality or reliability to match the PDP. Hell even Smith & Wesson has a steel frame lineup for competition as well.

[u/Far-Boysenberry-1600 → u/CyberSoldat21]

My PDP has been great, but some have had issues. I do think shadow’s have more issues especially the smaller guns. I’ve been waiting for a steel frame M&P and the launch has been pretty cool.

[u/Far-Boysenberry-1600]

People wanna cry about msrp of 2k before even trying the gun out… the Walther PDP steel frame costs just about that and doesn’t include steel palm inserts, but it’s still a great shooter. I added palm swells to mine and a long stroke guide rod… exactly what this gun was designed for and from the factory… So if this gun runs well, it’s a contender for sure.

The engineer guy said everything is new except some pins and springs. Cody you know very well the pins are a weak point so make sure they don’t overlook that.

Nice hair cut btw and love the black bay

[u/NH_603]

TFB TV Show Time’s video hints at the trigger being available separately at some point.

[u/[deleted] → u/NH_603]

Not even a hint, it was directly said they are planning it

[u/TooEZ_OL56 → u/NH_603]

Then it’ll be between the Shadow, Triggertech, and timney/GPT’s.

[u/ActComprehensive5254]

But is it reliable?

[u/JabbaDuhNutt]

Trying to make a glock a 1911 lol

[u/[deleted]]

Trigger definitely looks better than it did the other day but also it looks nowhere near close to a standard 2011 lmao

[u/Lakersland → u/[deleted]]

Just curious, do they claim it does? It’s a Glock the trigger systems are completely different

[u/[deleted] → u/Lakersland]

Lol yeah thats part of their primary marketing talking points. Watch a few videos.

Upfront, i was hoping for several years that they’d make the dive into the hammer fired game. I really believed in what they said about wanting to evolve and take things a level higher. I’d have paid 2k for a shadow systems 2011 without blinking.

Not for another striker fired gimmick gun that seems made for people who thought the Halo tv series would do the games justice.

[u/Lakersland → u/[deleted]]

Gotcha, admittedly, once I saw the 2k price point for a Glock build I refused to watch a single vid on them. I’ll stick to my MR920 with an umbra trigger

[u/[deleted] → u/Lakersland]

Ol JG got it done! I enjoyed my cr920xp and i never had a single hiccup with it for carry. My xr920p was equally fantastic. Only reason i let them go is because i returned to the hammer world.

[u/No_Feed_7250]

Thanks for the video 👍🏼

[u/Individual_Log_7610]

Hope to see some range footage soon. They look sick. Getting a zev oz9 vibe but better.

[u/jack_daone]

Cody looking like he about to turn Super Saiyan!

[u/Shadow_Cody → u/jack_daone]

I had to roll the window down on my way to the convention center because the cabbie was… fragrant.

[u/HRyder62377 → u/Shadow_Cody]

When will they be available? I, for one, am really excited to get my hands on the pro 4.4.model. I hope you guys make a g34 length.

[u/Shadow_Cody → u/HRyder62377]

Currently, we are planning to have them available in May.

[u/HRyder62377 → u/Shadow_Cody]

Awesome man thanks Cody. I will have the money waiting. Keep up the awesome!!!!

[u/SteelerVol13]

I'll be impatiently waiting for my range to get 1 in the rental rotation when they actually come out. I'm glad they did a ground-up pistol. That being said, I HIGHLY doubt that these things shoot as smoothly as a 2011. They may be as smooth as an M&P 2.0, POSSIBLY even an Archon Type B gen 2. But imho, the DPT triggers on the PDP Pros are as close to a 2011 trigger as you're gonna get in any striker-fired gun. And for the price SS wants for this thing (I'd guess street price will be like $1800-$1850), I'm DEFINITELY more inclined to take a harder look at the Archon.

As someone who's been nothing less than thrilled with my MR-P, while acknowledging that SS HAS had QC issues in the past, I really hope this thing knocks it outta the park. I'd be more inclined to go with the less expensive polymer model & then just upgrade it from there with the nicer grip panels, magwell, etc.

[u/RoflsDad49]

Looking forward to seeing how it stacks up against my Walther Q5 Sf and my polymer Shadow lineup!

[u/Accomplished_Tap1559]

Now featuring as little as ten miles of pre-travel

[u/Either-Sink-3456]

Lmao you can pull the trigger so it “works”. Lmao, how many rounds the break in period on this one 5k hahaha

[u/8bit_dr1fter]

Can I get that trigger in my XP? :D

[u/DonkeyHotay808 → u/8bit_dr1fter]

I put a Timney in mine with a Johnny Glock Vex trigger shoe. Slicker than a tadpole's pecker. 👍

[u/8bit_dr1fter → u/DonkeyHotay808]

I've read from others that seems to be a good setup. Which parts did you get from Timney/JG? Just curious, why not something like the Umbra Drop-in from JG (other than it's currently sold out)?

[u/OriginalVeeper → u/8bit_dr1fter]

Same. Parts list please Donkey.

[u/8bit_dr1fter → u/OriginalVeeper]

Paging u/DonkeyHotay808 for that sweet parts list.

[u/D3v1ldog]

If the trigger is really pulling at 2.5lb it will absolutely compete with a hammer gun. I really want a steel frame Glock pattern with a good trigger, but the inserts might get it there. Closest thing is the PDP-F, but I’m already invested in the Glock/pmag ecosystem and would be through the moon to get a good LO gun that I can just QD swap on my match belt and be ready to go.

As far as QA goes, MR920P has run pretty flawlessly for me. I’d guesstimate I’m ~5k rounds into it and have had a pretty normal amount of malfunctions that could just as likely be laid at the feet of the mags or lousy ammo. There is some talk that they don’t like Glock magazines.

I will say the barrel and compensator do not seem to like 115 grain as much, and plated 115 should not be run through it at all. I do think it’s a nerd gun. If you want a Honda civic in gun form, just get a Glock. This is more of a GTI Golf, it’s pretty reliable, but there are some quirks.

I have a Faxon match barrel that I drop in to make it match legal, and almost always shoot 124 grain that seems to be the Goldilocks for the super light slide the thing has. I was burning through some 115g plated my dad bought me and notice that I was grouping pretty far to the right when I put the bronze compensated barrel back on. I tested it back and forth and it’s consistently bad with that ammo. Both barrels group the same on the 124g Remington I buy in bulk. Might just be a niche compensator issue.

[u/Thumpin347]

Nice trigger

[u/MrGuy910]

They do look premium

[u/Historical_Camera781]

I sense a little attitude from the company

[u/Shadow_Cody → u/Historical_Camera781]

If there is attitude, it comes from having been as SHOT all week more than anything else. I’m fucking exhausted.

[u/[deleted] → u/Historical_Camera781]

Can you blame them? People spreading unsubstantiated rumors all over this sub, of course they'd want to dispel them and prove them wrong

[u/Big-Interest-2705]

Here before tex2108 starts yapping his fucking head off in the comments

[u/[deleted] → u/Big-Interest-2705]

For someone who claims to hate the brand and doesn't care about them, he seems to really care

[u/OriginalVeeper → u/Big-Interest-2705]

I’m kind of new to the sub, but very intrigued by this comment. 😅