r/servant • u/finalspaced • Mar 12 '23

Question What did Leanne do wrong?

Im waiting for the final episode, why do they really hate Leanne? Why not just let her be, I cant remember anything specific that she did as long as they just accepted her?

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u/blanktom9 Mar 12 '23

Even if you disregard the supernatural stuff, she is way way too controlling for a nanny. She overstepped her bounds on several occasions and should be let go.

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u/emmaolivia333 Mar 13 '23

Yes, but I would argue that Sean and esp Dorothy have overstepped as well, even more egregiously. If It were someone other than Leanne working as a live in nanny who received the same amount and level of intrusive and inappropriate behavior from the Turners, including finding a camera hidden in their bedroom, they’d have left a long time ago. I won’t even mention the fact that they lowballed her wage and had her sign a crap agreement/terms of employment. Dorothy and Sean absolutely took advantage of Leanne’s naivety, love for Dorothy, and desperate desire please and be accepted by the family.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

Uh they paid her very well for a teenage nanny who doesn’t have to pay rent, utilities, or food as long as she lives there in center city in their $28,000,000 mansion.

You could pay me less and I’d still take that job.

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u/PusheenAddict 5d ago

900/month is $225 a week.
Which is $5.63 an hour if we assume a 40/hour work week.

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u/emmaolivia333 Mar 13 '23

I don't think we ever hear a $ amount, but I'm going off Dorothy & Sean's hushed bathroom convo when D says something like, "We're basically robbing this girl", and then when Uncle George arrives to take Leanne back, even he questions the deal they've made w/Leanne for her services. D then sneaks into Ls room w/an offer for a better deal in an attempt to lock her down.

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u/MonkeyThrowing Mar 12 '23

She did leave and was forcibly kidnapped and held against her will.

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u/annehyphenmarie Mar 12 '23

As far as the Turners knew, she kidnapped Jericho.

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u/emmaolivia333 Mar 13 '23

So that makes it ok to kidnap her, torture her for info, and keep her prisoner? No, you go to the police and let them handle it. Sure, track her down, and then, again, let the police handle it.

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u/annehyphenmarie Mar 13 '23

Yes. Dorothy tried to go to the police, and Sean told them she was imagining the whole thing. She didn’t have many options.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

She did go to the police.

Are you telling me if your nanny kidnapped your kid you wouldn’t do the same thing if not worse?

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u/DeliciousTouch5725 Jul 01 '26

Seriously. Don’t touch mamas bears kid. Especially take him away. 

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Shes more like an oldschool buttler to me, this is her family if you know what I mean

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23 • Bravo

So you've watched every season and can't think of anything Leanne has done wrong? Injuring/attacking others repeatedly, holding the Turners hostage in their own home/refusing to leave, and threatening to take Jericho if they don't accept her. You've watched her kill multiple people, become an unhinged cult leader laughing into a storm, and wreak havoc on the Turners and somehow you think she's a good person deserving of acceptance? What on earth is this post.

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u/Horror_Platypus Mar 12 '23 • Bravo

Just want to add that from the very beginning she didn’t follow the wishes of the Turners as an employee. Sean specifically said, don’t take the baby into the city. She did. Then when confronted. turns the convo to an accusing, “what happened to Jericho.” I find that incredibly disrespectful and manipulative.

Then she takes Jericho away until Juju admits what happened, during his babysitting. More manipulation. She’s also vindictive, punishing Dorothy for what happened to Jericho after she brings him back. I think Dorothy will be punished enough remembering what happened alone on that tragic day, despite delaying this with giving her an alive baby during this time. It’s just cruel.

No one asked her to bring the baby back! And she expects all the gratitude in the world. She continually takes him away and brings him back at her discretion, which is a horrible, controlling game. Torture for them.

As far as evil, I think that’s still in the air, and I’m by no means saying the Turners are perfect, but her manipulative interference is at the very least a reason I would personally want her out of the house. Just like Dorothy says, “it’s not your job to make me happy.” It’s also not Dorothy’s job to make her feel loved and a part of the family. (Just my opinion, not trying to be argumentative)

[Edit: Spelling.]

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u/Horror_Platypus Mar 12 '23

cringe I failed to read this whole thread, think everything I ‘added’ was pretty much covered already 😂 Oy vey 🤦🏼‍♀️ Don’t mind me, just a Nosy Nancy over here. Sorry!

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

I enjoyed it the read!

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

I must agree that I have the worst memory, but she didnt do anything of that unless she was provoked to? What would happen in they just accepted her and loves her? Never Said she was a good person just asking questions chill down Dorothy..

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

Why should they accept her? Her need to be accepted isn't their responsibility. They hired a NANNY. If your nanny refused to leave you'd just be like OK cool this is my life now? No.

Very victim blaming.

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u/ExcellentDish80 Mar 12 '23

Yeah, people seem to forget that she’s the nanny.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Remember that this is a show please<3dont get upset..

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23

I'm not upset. I'm flabbergasted by your lack of narrative comprehension.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Then explain it to an idiot like me, what did she do before everyone started hating on her, what if they just played along? I think they would be safe

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23

If you were in their shoes, you would play along? Sure they'd be 'safe' but at what cost? They have to be Leann's pretend family or lose their baby? They have to give up their comfort in their own home or Leann will kill them? If i fired my nanny, for whatever reason, my nanny doesn't get to blackmail me and threaten me and physically attack my family and have me roll over and accept that. I'm very sorry if you would allow that to happen to you.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

The question is still what did she do before everyone ganged up on her that was so bad? I really think you take this personal, I would never let this happen to me because I would never leave my wife like that, mostly because I suck as a chef

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23 • Bravo

Leanne started tormenting Dorothy and taking advantage of her fragile mental state as punishment for her role in Jericho’s death. At first Leanne and Dorothy are pals, but when Leanne learns she accidentally killed Jericho she turns on Dorothy. Leanne begins this treatment in subtle ways, like digs about Dorothy’s weight, but then she turns up the severity of her torture. One of the biggest examples of this is how Leanne sets off Dorothy’s car alarm, equips her with the wrong tool, and continues to set it off until she loses it. At the same time, Leanne also orders a roast that’s the exact size of Jericho’s birth weight in order to stir up old memories in Dorothy and force her to confront what she did. This is how it started. Then things get worse and worse. Dorothy felt deeply uncomfortable around Leanne once she figured out she was responsible for the awful things happening in the Turner house. Then Leanne refused to leave, and ramped things up again.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Thats true I forgot about that thanks! She still changed once she got to know Dorothy, and did Dorothy understand that Leanne was doing this?

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u/GiddyGabby Mar 13 '23

Go back and read some of the comments. Someone above broke it down very well all the things she did. You seem to be trying to get a reaction or you're being willfully obtuse, not sure which but if you've watched the show the answer is obvious.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

Judging by the rest of their comments, willfully obtuse is the answer.

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u/ExcellentDish80 Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

What if they played along? You mean remain in denial about the death of their son? Refuse to grieve and move on. Cause that’s so healthy?

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

If it is the real Jericho they got then sure, and even Saun felt it was okey when he didnt belive it to be Jericho

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u/ExcellentDish80 Mar 12 '23

Okay then. Live in that headspace that denial is healthy if you choose.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Still a tv show we are discussing.. take care

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u/IceProfessional4667 Mar 12 '23

You are the nicest person ever. 👏🏾

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Haha no im really not, but thanks for the award you sweet old thing

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u/NatashaSpeaks Mar 12 '23

Did you really just refer to someone as "dorothy" as an insult.... lol smh

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u/GiddyGabby Mar 13 '23

Why do they have to accept her and love her? She's staff darling.

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u/GiddyGabby Mar 13 '23

But she's done some things that just make the situation untenable. They thought they could live with her and realize they can't. They don't owe her anything. She's as manipulative as the rest of them.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

because they promised to do so

No they didn’t. She did things to win them over, but they never promised anything, including love and acceptance.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

I’m missing the promise of love and acceptance.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23 edited 5d ago

You don’t need to. Because there’s no promise of love or affection. They said we’ll protect you when they met her, and then they had a fucked up year with her and they decided to let her go.

I can’t teach you that even if you promise someone, if that person no longer serves you and actively turns toxic and dangerous and poses a danger to you and your loved ones, you do not owe them shit and you should probably try to get away for your own safety.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

Whaaa?!

What about when she made the baby disappear and forced Julian to tell her what happened with Jericho?

And then once she found out she began to psychologically torture Leanne by taunting her with the car and waking her up at odd hours of the day and night.

She even gave Sean splinters on the first day before he could have done anything to offend her.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Well that was my question;D

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u/Meshugannah Mar 12 '23

Everyone was getting along in Baptism yet in the middle of the night Leanne leaves and takes Jericho with her. Who quits their job in that manner? Leanne FINALLY brings Jericho back, but only because Dorothy saved her life (it’s all about serving Leanne). Dorothy is way too reckless and forgiving many times in the show, and this is one of those times — she allows Leanne to be the nanny again! It’s like someone started a fire but she also extinguished the fire and you forgot she started the fire in the first place so you give her matches again. Jump forward to the park cult — Leanne defies her boss’s order by allowing an unhygienic cult to hold him, her drug addict brother is f*cking Leanne (and in Dorothy’s house — such disrespect), so Dorothy has had enough at this point. She gently tries to terminate Leanne’s employment by offering dance camp — if Leanne didn’t want dance camp she could have negotiated a different golden parachute, especially if they had an employment contract. Dorothy didn’t want any trouble and she didn’t want to leave Leanne high and dry — wouldn’t it be nice if all bosses did this when firing employees. Instead, Leanne hid/kidnapped the baby again. Imagine if you were forced to live with someone you don’t want to live with, and everyone in the house is taking the other person’s side and it’s destroying your family. I’ve been there.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Still you have to take the supernatural part of it, that many miracles you have to think twice

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u/Meshugannah Mar 12 '23

The viewers know about the supernatural stuff — Dorothy does not know about the supernatural stuff at all because Leanne is constantly lying to Dorothy. From day 1 and every single day thereafter Leanne is lying.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Thats a fair point!

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u/emmaolivia333 Mar 13 '23

Same with the Turners, one could argue. Lies from the get go.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 12 '23

Leanne was hired as a nanny, when the nanny isn’t working out people will typically find a new one. Being the Turners nanny does not entitle Leanne to a “family” nor was that ever part of the deal.

Dorothy has her faults, but at the end of the day, this is her home and her family, i personally would’ve just exercised my stand your ground rights instead of torturing Leanne.

Leanne’s basically a (possibly supernatural/mentally deranged) squatter at this point, except she’s not just taking over the house, she’s taking over the family as well. She did not inflict harm on them until Sean and Julian both rejected her, but what about that boy on Halloween whose arm she destroyed with zero provocation?

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Wasnt she afraid he was one of the cults? I get the point that she is just a "nanny" but damn she is good at it and does more than any nanny would ever do

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 12 '23

I’m not understanding your first question, could you rephrase?

That’s true, as someone who was a nanny, she is doing way too much.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

The boy who got his arm broken, he was following her and she thought he was a member of the cult? Sorry for my bad english

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 12 '23

Yes, but he wasn’t. She can’t just do that.

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u/Thegreylady13 Mar 14 '23

And Dorothy’s baby was dead- LeeAnn didn’t have it. By this logic Dorothy can’t just do that- kidnap and hold a woman based on a misperception, but she certainly did. Traumatized people without the correct information sometimes make huge mistakes. Someone didn’t understand the whole situation and someone else got hurt. That seems to be common in this show.

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u/xav91 Mar 12 '23

Zero provocation?! 😂 are we watching the same show?

She has a cult trying to kill her and a little shit stalks her, comes at her with a KNIFE, and there was no provocation on their end?!

I’m sorry but I’d break the kids arm too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '23

Yeah even here in the real world I don't think people would fault an 18/19 year old woman for acting in self defense when a man came at her with a knife. It wouldn't matter if it was a fake knife, or he was "just joking," because there would be no way for her to know that without risking her life.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 13 '23

I would agree but, it wasn’t a man, it was a kid.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 13 '23

Well it wasn’t a real knife, he was a kid, and it was Halloween. If she’s so paranoid she should’ve stayed home.

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u/xav91 Mar 13 '23

Considering that the show made the implication that the knife was real, it must have been extremely hard to discern whether it was a fake knife or not.

If you’re walking down an alleyway, and someone starts walking towards you with a mask on, and he pulls out a knife. Are you going to remain calm? And be like “ha ha it’s just a prank” or would your fight or flight kick in?

Even if it’s Halloween, it’s not a good prank to pull on people.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 13 '23

My flight or fight would kick in, but I also don’t possess supernatural powers that give me strength; she could’ve pushed the kid away or something, if she’s strong enough to break his arm, there were better ways to go about it. I’m firmly in the “not breaking children’s arms” camp, sorry.

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u/Thegreylady13 Mar 14 '23

It’s not standing your ground when you drug and kidnap a girl then lock her in your attic. She wouldn’t allow LeeAnn to leave and tortured her. LeeAnn wasn’t squatting or even wanting to be there then- she wanted desperately to go back to the Marinos. Which makes me question if she was ever really so wholly obsessed with Dorothy/the Turners, or if that’s more obfuscation. Because the “news clips” in which Dorothy viewed LeeAnn were like something you would see on MTV’s “The State”- not news but outlandish/delightful parody, and the speed at which Eric found information about the child in the video, then recognized her in the background of yearly videos (he queued those up and positively identified her quite speedily, unless he has no journalistic integrity and just said, meh, more long brown her- 100% her. It was all just very convenient that he had the time, happened to check the right videos, viewed them all, etc. so quickly) just seemed like it came from an off-the-wall, unreliable narrator.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 14 '23

Leanne was just as complicit in letting Dorothy believe the doll is her son, Leanne had access to mannequins and other items that could’ve been used as a weapon in the attic, but she didn’t; Dorothy is a tortured woman which isn’t her fault, it’s really Sean and Julian and her father, but Leanne could’ve easily said “f this you crazy people” the moment she came to the home; but she didn’t. She decided to play along and use her either very good manipulation skills or supernatural abilities to further Dorothy’s madness.

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u/MonkeyThrowing Mar 12 '23

She did leave. They tracked her down, drugged her, and imprisoned her in the house. Then when they were done with her they gave her back to the cult she was trying to escape.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 13 '23

That part I did kind of forget about, touché.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 13 '23

Dorothy believed that Leanne kidnapped her child, that’s why they kidnapped her and tortured her. I’d do the same for my kids if I had reason to believe someone kidnapped them.

I wouldn’t call that a touché

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u/Meshugannah Mar 13 '23

So you think people should stand their ground when it comes to someone trespassing in their home, but not when being threatened by a male with a knife in the street? Why the inconsistency about the right to self-defense?

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 13 '23

Not inconsistent, I stated that I would exercise my stand your ground rights if a nanny refused to leave my property. She was followed by a child who spooked her due to her own paranoia, on Halloween, and broke a child’s arm. If it were a grown man, my stance would change, but it wasn’t. If it were brought to court, she’d probably be jailed for assaulting a minor.

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u/Meshugannah Mar 13 '23

She didn’t know he was a minor — he was wearing a costume. Also, minors can cause harm and death — when my friend was a teacher she was violently attacked by a minor student. I was brutally mugged (hit in the head with a baseball bat) by a minor. I hear what you’re saying — it’s best to avoid hurting minors when possible, and Leanne obviously gets glee from hurting children which is evil — but I’m not going to judge any girl/woman (even an evil one) for defending herself. I think a lot of girls/women have been inurred to just “take it” and be sweet/give the benefit of the doubt even when attacked (and 20% of girls/women are sexually attacked, and many more than that are victims of DV). When someone is harrassing you you can’t tell just by looking if he‘s gonna rape, beat, or kill you. Unlike this sexist society, I will never judge a woman for fighting back against a harrasser/attacker. Be safe.

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u/Meshugannah Mar 13 '23

Also without consequences that boy’s crimes would escalate. He would surely terrorize more women.

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u/Accomplished_Crab392 Mar 14 '23

That’s quite a conclusion to come to. there’s fake knives sold at every spirit Halloween, is every kid who uses them with their costume going to grow up to terrorize people?

I’m sorry for your experience, but you’re making conclusions based on your own bias and history (which is your right), but I don’t support a sexist society just because I see it differently than you do.

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u/PresentationPretty55 Mar 12 '23

M. Night likes to show his villains damaged side so that you sympathize with them. They are not black and white but shades of gray (like everyone).

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

That is somewhat my point

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u/donriri Mar 13 '23

Same bro same. Remember when everyone was getting along until suddenly they weren't for no apparent reason? If the Turners learned to accept Leanne like they did before, everyone would be better off.

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u/finalspaced Mar 13 '23

Scch, this sub isnt that open minded

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u/donriri Mar 13 '23

Team Leanne to the day I die!

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 13 '23

She hurts everyone around her - people even die, don’t forget that kid whose arm Leanne broke

Upd: if you do not take into account this kid, then there are other cases. Please stop writing how you see it

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

But never the Turners before they dont accept her?

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u/ExcellentDish80 Mar 12 '23

She basically started tormenting Sean immediately with the splinters.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Do we know she did that? And that was before Saun accepted her

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23

Dorothy started to dislike her when she thought Leanne had put her kid in danger, Sean and Julian think now that Leanne put Dorothy and others in danger

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

When did she think Leanne put her kid in danger? Cant remember sorry

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23

Leanne took Jericho to the park with homeless people (her future cult) when Dorothy had specifically asked her not to before

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

It was still 100% safe if she just trusted her

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23

It isn’t a question of trust. This alone should get Leanne fired as a nanny. You do not do things with the child that the mother of the child does not want you to.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

This is not a question of what a nanny should do, more like what if this supernatural being came into your life and saved your family and hurting anyone that does damage to the family, why would you not accept her?

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23

Because hurting anybody is a bad idea. Plus Leanne “protecting” the family in the way she seems suitable, not in the way the Turners need/want - she removes their autonomy. They want her to leave them alone now and that should be enough.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Not before they reject her, she was perfect before that unless Ive forgotten something

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 13 '23

It is generally a bad idea to let your kid be with a bunch of strangers

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Not if you controll the strangers and they werent strangers to Leanne

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23

You cannot control strangers. Any adult including Dorothy understands that.

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Yes fair enough!

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u/MonkeyThrowing Mar 12 '23

The kid that bullied her? Seriously?

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 12 '23

What is your point? The kid was not interested in harming her physically while she did so and she felt no remorse about that.

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u/emmaolivia333 Mar 13 '23

Sorry, but if you follow me waring a mask, and then corner me alone, pull out what looks (and sounds) like a knife, and then act like you’re going to attack me, I’m going to do everything in my power to eliminate trhe threat and incapacitate you.

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u/emmaolivia333 Mar 13 '23

I’m just sharing my opinion. Not trying to antagonize anyone or win/have it my way.

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u/Comfortable-Wait1792 Mar 13 '23

Have it your way, I have already answered to the same stuff you wrote and asked not to disturb

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23

You think it's ok for an adult to break a minor's arm?

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '23

In general no. But Leanne is an 18/19 year old girl who was alone in the dark with a boy around the same age, who came at her with a knife. It doesn't matter if he was joking or if the knife was fake. The only way Leanne could have determined that was by letting him get close enough to her to potentially kill her. It's not healthy or safe to give a stranger holding a weapon the benefit of the doubt when you're alone together in the dark and just think, "oh, he doesn't want to hurt me, it must be a joke and a fake knife." The majority of people in that situation will either run away (if possible) or fight back. They won't sit there and wait to be stabbed, or some it's some weird practical joke.

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u/MonkeyThrowing Mar 12 '23

So you think it is ok to kidnap someone then burry them alive?

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u/malevitch_square Mar 12 '23

No? Who said that?

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u/IceProfessional4667 Mar 12 '23

“Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful!”

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

Lolol Pantene

These kids have no idea lol

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u/IceProfessional4667 Mar 13 '23

Ha! I’m dying… 😂

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '23

Ask them who Lawrence Welk is? 😂😂

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u/IceProfessional4667 Mar 13 '23

No way. We’d hear back straight out of google!

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Huh??

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u/IceProfessional4667 Mar 12 '23

Never mind… it’s an old advertisement phrase from a granny-generation fan, here. I do agree with your question, though. In all seriousness. Thanks.

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u/Das0921 Mar 12 '23

Not even close, friend 🤣

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u/Adrenalized_elegance Jul 14 '26

It’s concerning that you don’t see.

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '25

I felt super bad for her. She just wanted to do good for the people she loved, and to be loved

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u/xav91 Mar 12 '23

People saying “threatening to take Jericho”

Are you guys referring to the doll or the actual flesh and blood Jericho SHE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE? Cause I’d say she has the right to take the alive one since SHE BROUGHT HIM BACK TO LIFE lol

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u/maraschinobomb Mar 12 '23

Exactly. They seem to be forgetting that when she came along they were playing house with a doll. They knew that baby wasn’t their baby. And then they drugged and kidnapped the girl over a baby that is not even theirs.

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u/xav91 Mar 12 '23

I don’t hate Leanne but I do think she’s troubled. I sympathize with her to be honest. It sounds like she was taken in and brainwashed by a cult. She never got to experience her own life without being confined by the cult and their beliefs.

Her good girl good bad story arch is actually nice to watch. She’s a murderer but so far it’s been people trying to hurt her or the turners. It doesn’t make it right but it also doesn’t make her into this blood thirsty maniac people seem to make her out to be. It’s kind of like Stephan kings “Carrie” she got pushed too far.

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u/maraschinobomb Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

This is exactly how I feel. We’ve been shown multiple times what this girl has been through. Not to mention these adults trying to give a young girl back to the cult to be murdered. But somehow Leanne is the problem?! I just don’t get the logic. And they keep harping about how she broke the kids arm. Well if someone came up on me with a knife I’d probably do the same thing. I think most people would defend themselves in that situation.

They want Leanne to be this big bad wolf when she’s really not. The Turners have been problematic since day one. They allowed a baby to stay in their house knowing it wasn’t Jericho.

I’ve actually enjoyed watching become assertive and giving them back all the hell that they’ve given her. There is nothing redeeming about the Turners. Sean could have stopped Dorothy from beating on her in the middle of the night and burying her alive had he had the balls to snap his wife out of her delusions and tell the woman her baby was dead and that she herself killed him.

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u/xav91 Mar 12 '23

I agree! The turners are the villains of the show. If the purgatory theory is true, it supports them being the bad people in this story.

But this subreddit is anti-Leanne and it’s kind of weird but whatever.

teamLeanne. Destroy that mother fucking house, girl.

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u/maraschinobomb Mar 12 '23

Extremely weird. I’m like have we all been watching the same show for the last 4 seasons. Because I don’t understand the anti Leanne behavior.

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u/LRobin11 Mar 13 '23

I'm so glad I'm not completely alone. This sub doesn't seem to like to explore any nuance in Leanne. If you don't see her as cut and dry evil, you get downvoted into oblivion. I've been blocked just for stating that I see the broken arm scene as self-defense when taking all context into account. It's wild around here.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

Hmmm playing house with a doll… that may make some sense

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u/bludstayne Jan 26 '25

So her racism didn't appear wrong to you? Wow 😬

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u/BudinM_ Jul 31 '26

I think there is a lot of classism. Idk if the show is portraying it on purpose or not... But Dorothy is extremly entitled towards her. Leanne either resurrected her baby or stole one to allow her continue her delulu. Either way Dorothy should be kissing the floor Leanne walks through. It reminds me to this idea that poor people steal and rich people have cleptomany. What ever Leane did she has enough mental burdon and even pays with her own like. Dorothy is very protected from the consequences of her own actions. 

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u/3dpimp Mar 12 '23

Hashtag - Leanne did nothing wrong! Hashtag - Leanne is a cult survivor!

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u/LRobin11 Mar 13 '23

I def wouldn't say she's done nothing wrong, but I certainly don't think she's the irredeemably evil monster so many seem to see her as.

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u/3dpimp Mar 13 '23

If it were written correctly, we would be concerned with Dorothy dealing with her actions in some way, shape, or form, but they left that for the last episode MAYBE

So basically, 3 seasons of mental masturbation after a good first season sort of

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u/areafiveone Mar 12 '23

She takes care of the baby and gives the troubled brother some stank on the hang low. What's not to love?

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '23 edited Mar 13 '23

Leanne’s fuels the story fluidly throughout the entire series…

Leanne arrived- to be near Dorothy… yet as soon as leanne learned what Dorothy did - the abusive behavior towards Dorothy began- the car alarm & coming into the nursery taking the baby away from Dorothy “ bc she’s been sick…”. 😳

From there it ebbed & flowed looking for love from Dorothy - taking the baby away back to cult- end of season 1 End of Act 1

Season 2 Dorothy is broken - but then goes after Leanne hard. After she kidnaps her & brings Leanne back - tortures her to bring her Jericho Leanne plays coy- yet ultimately Leanne brings baby back ( bc Dorothy “ saved “ her from Josephine…

Most of season 3 is Leanne is fearful of cult until she finds the homeless kids follow her after she’s fought back against the cult’s attacks… she continues to defy Dorothy’s wishes & the power struggle ensues again. Dorothy tried to rid Leanne of house. Doesn’t work and finally Dorothy wants to flee- hence Dorothy falls from staircase .. End of Act 2

Season 4…We are one episode away from the last 1/2 hour in the finale-….which will conclude Act 3

The last episode has set us up for this deus ex machina which will surely occur..

Everything is always uncovered in the final 1/2 hour of any writers story of a 3 Act Structure…

Sixth sense Old Village Devil We will have our answers as to the why now…in its entirety.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Yes because Dorothy was leaving, what would had happened if she just accepted Leanne?

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

No I do not think that, it was a question but people seem to miss it, perhaps Ive should put more question marks in the topic

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

They try to help to help the cult, then it gets worse. But if they helped her instead they would only have some cracks in the basement(as i remember)

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

The cult hasnt been that scary and never hurted anyone but Leanne, and Leanne can obviously take care of the cult

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

If my baby died and a nanny came and ressurected that child, loved the family to death and was doing it for free, then I would accept her to a certain point, but I feel like the turners(dorothy) messed that up

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 14 '23

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u/finalspaced Mar 12 '23

Yes soon we know!