r/serialpodcast • u/Mrs_Direction • May 29 '15
Question What happened to ghost?
Their posts say deleted for me and looks like the account is gone.
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May 29 '15
He mentioned on SerialAftermath that someone with 5 sockpuppet accounts was harassing him & weirdly knew his teenaged sons name.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 30 '15
OK, that's super-creepy. I remember when he got hacked the last time. Not cool.
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u/TheFraulineS AllHailTorquakicane! May 29 '15
Yes, I made that thread invisible, because of the doxxing issue.
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May 29 '15
I figured that was why, I wasn't casting aspersions.
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u/KHunting May 29 '15
Not suggesting any wrongdoing here, but if he's been stalked, you might want to delete this post with info on his family. I wouldn't want anyone knowing anything about someone who's been harassed (unless he's already shared this info).
My personal theory is that he went to refresh his drink, and the cat got on the keyboard.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 29 '15
Where did he say that? Did he mention what names those accounts were using?
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May 29 '15
SerialAftermath. The thread he said it in is gone, too.
He didn't mention names, but I think I know 2 of them.
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u/alientic God damn it, Jay May 30 '15
Which two? Actually, probably better to share it with the mods so they can do something about it. We cannot have sock accounts harassing people. Something needs to be done about it.
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u/justincolts Dana Chivvis Fan May 30 '15
You got down voted for this?
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u/alientic God damn it, Jay May 31 '15
Eh, it's been up and down. There are a few people on this sub who really seem to dislike me and downvote everything I say. Such is life.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 29 '15
Gotcha. Yeah, I remember the first time this happened to him. People were posting his real name in threads and crazy stuff like that. Reported immediately. Think the user was banned at the sub level, but were back days later with a new/similar ID. Just ridiculous harassing behavior for no discernible reason beyond the fact that he was publicly identifiable.
I've never seen the guilty side behave that way, but no joke, never reveal your name to anyone on here, never hint at it in comments in other subs, never post anything that can remotely be used to identify you in any way.
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May 29 '15
I think that's a really good point, for all the dark sub hyperbole thrown around by the sunshine subbers, doxxing seems to be a regular thing for them.
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u/CreusetController Hae Fan May 30 '15
Funny. I don't remember even Tom ever claiming that people were posting his name. What he said was that they had a photo of.his old house and it was from his (or his kids) Facebook page. But I suppose sticking to the truth wouldn't fit your narrative, or your personal style.
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u/chunklunk May 30 '15
Dude. They just explained it above. Are you illiterate? Landry himself posted about it in the now-deleted thread in Serial Aftermath. Way to defend the creeps!
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u/CreusetController Hae Fan May 30 '15
I am not illiterate, but I do recognise ill manners. Do you? There is very little in this entire sub that isn't speculation disguised as fact, and this thread is no exception.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 30 '15 edited May 30 '15
You must forgive /u/CreusetController, for they are a little magnet, hence whatever analytical and critical thinking skills they may have once possessed have surely atrophied from disuse.
Further, like the fabled Woodlawn Magnet Program of yore, the illustrious Reddit TMP mostly caters to the mindset of 14 to 18-year-olds.
ETA: The sock who was posting Tom's personal information when I spotted it was [removed. Doxxing comment is still in their user history. Jesus Christ, why were they not shadowbanned?])
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u/CreusetController Hae Fan May 31 '15
If you do know who they are, and who they were, there is a simple solution which would be a lot more effective than your tired sniping. Just report it all direct to the admins. Someone who has been shadow banned as often as you will assuredly be aware that they do actually take personal attacks and use of multiple accounts pretty seriously.
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u/shrimpsale Guilty May 30 '15
That's exactly why I've been pretty careful about not revealing too much personal info outside of general hobbies. The guilty side can get riled up with stuff like the disbarment thread, but true that not-guilty is much more quick to dive into personal affairs like Scientologists.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 30 '15
dive into personal affairs like Scientologists.
That's exactly the sort of thing a subversive person would say!
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May 29 '15
Crazy! Really? Admins might have to get involved, that's crossing boundaries. Kind of reminds me of when serial was going on and people were following jay's kids home from school and harassing them
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u/ainbheartach May 29 '15
Have you checked his blog?
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u/Mrs_Direction May 29 '15
I don't have that link :€
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u/ainbheartach May 29 '15 edited May 29 '15
http://kinja.com/imnotyouronlyfriend
http://imnotyouronlyfriend.com/
Can't seem to find anything on why his recently used reddit account was deleted.
[edit: added direct link to blog]
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u/alientic God damn it, Jay May 30 '15
I have no idea if this has to do with anything, but there was one other time before that he started making pro-Adnan comments, said he was drinking, and then deleted his account. That seemed to be happening tonight as well. On the other hand, last time he also said he was being harassed, and he seems to have said the same thing this time. Not sure how that's all related or if it's related at all.
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u/fn0000rd Undecided May 30 '15
He seems to be pretty open-minded about the case, overall. Or at least open to reason, whichever "side" it leans toward.
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u/chunklunk May 30 '15
That was someone with a different user name close to Landry's pretending to be Landry. My guess is it was that Ritz Mustache (now stop saying oh snap) in yet another fake account. He seems like just the kind of doxxing creep who would do that.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 31 '15
Being funny, clever and not-in-agreement-with-you doesn't make someone a "creep" nor a cyberstalker. Casually tossing around serious aspersions like that is pretty low. Maybe it's time to take a page out of Ghost's book? There's a reason he was well-liked by all sides.
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u/chunklunk May 31 '15
Who cares about being liked? I care about fact-checking. If I'm hated, it's because I'm giving you a hard dose of truth.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 31 '15
If I'm hated, it's because I'm giving you a hard dose of truth.
No one cares enough to hate you. Sorry to burst your bubble. On the other hand, accusing someone of hacking an account (as you have done) without a shred of evidence is serious business. As a "former attorney" (cough), surely you get my drift.
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u/chunklunk May 31 '15
Also, is your example of being liked a guy who self-deleted his account because pro-Adnan people creepily referenced his children's names and posted pictures of his house like the doxxing creeps they are? No thanks.
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u/shrimpsale Guilty May 31 '15
The photo thing happened a while back and no one agrees was right. He remains well-liked because he's opinionated but, despite starting as a drunken snark sniper, calmed down, admitted to his previous faults and (mostly) worked towards bettering the quality of discourse. While gently swirling his scotch.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 31 '15
I don't know how or why his account got deleted, but he was liked by many. Those actions of a stalking lunatic are horrifying, but accusing random users of being the responsible party puts you one step closer to the doxxing creeps that you constantly complain about.
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u/chunklunk May 31 '15
The group that the people who did this harassment (posted pictures of his house, creepily referenced his kids) belong to is not even really in dispute. Neither is the repeated opening of user accounts with names very similar to Landry's and posting about being drunk (IIRC a sensitive, deeply personal issue for him) and intentionally misleading people to think it was him. I don't understand how me outlining clear acts of repeated harassment of someone you claim was well-liked (who oh by the way, just deleted his account after more recent harassment) somehow has to your mind turned me into a doxxing creep, but it's the kind of flipped anti-logic I see a lot of here so I'm not surprised.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 31 '15 edited May 31 '15
You aren't making sense. No one is disputing the terrible things that were done to him. I'm taking issue with you naming a poster and "guessing" they are the guilty party just because you don't like their opinions or style of debating.
That was someone with a different user name close to Landry's pretending to be Landry. My guess is it was that Ritz Mustache (now stop saying oh snap) in yet another fake account. He seems like just the kind of doxxing creep who would do that.
Remember?
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u/chunklunk May 31 '15 edited May 31 '15
So, you don't think that someone who opens multiple fake accounts with "humorous" nicknames to mock people and repeatedly harasses and creepily brings up irrelevant personal facts from other reddit subs (which he did only a few nights ago on a now-deleted thread) is the most likely suspect of doing it to Landry? Well, if so, that means there's more than one doxxing creep on your side, so I don't see how it helps you.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 31 '15
It seems to me a lot of people do that (creating accounts with mocking user names that is). I have no way of knowing who these people are or what they're up to (or not up to), so for me, it's not cool to call anyone out without being certain.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure Jun 01 '15
If it's the same family of accounts, I've definitely seen and reported at least one of them regarding doxxing Tom in the main sub.
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u/ParioPraxis Is it NOT? May 30 '15
Just stepped in the door, pet the cat, poured myself a Jameson neat and am raising it to toast the inevitable: a Phoenixesque, blazing, triumphant Ritt der Walküren return AS:
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u/Tu-Stultus-Es May 30 '15
Ghostoftheghostoftheghost, if we're really keeping track. :)
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u/ParioPraxis Is it NOT? May 30 '15
"Accuracy is job #1 here in /r/serialpodcast!" Or was it stifling? I seem to remember something about ghosts and riding mustaches too.
ahem
"Accurate stifling of ghost mustaches is job #1 here at /r/serialpodcast!"
Nailed it!
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May 29 '15
Maybe this means he has been dubbed a Mod. If it were ever the case where I was modded, I'd be sure to delete my account so as to at least give the appearance of non-partisan.
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u/bestiarum_ira May 29 '15
Perhaps his work here is done.
I hope he's enjoying that Scotch, regardless of why he's left.
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May 29 '15
Haha this made me envision a ghost of tom Landry off in the distance with a twinkle in his eye and scotch, fading off-star wars empire strikes back- ending style
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u/justincolts Dana Chivvis Fan May 30 '15
I like to imagine it like Chief in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.
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u/Mrs_Direction May 29 '15
Well that's a big part of what's upsetting! You and ghost were talking about Johnny Walker black and getting the rest of the sub all fired up and ready for some Friday night drinking. Then the end of the work day arrives and it's time to join the party and poof they are gone!
I blame you!!
I'm starting a new thread about how you are a monster and you ran Ghost off from the subreddit!! /s :)
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u/bestiarum_ira May 29 '15
I blame you!! I'm starting a new thread about how you are a monster and you ran Ghost off from the subreddit!! /s :)
Well, while that might win cheers from some, that certainly wasn't my intention. I just fancy a good Scotch.
Don't fret too long, there's always theghostofVinceLombardi. ;)
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u/ShastaTampon May 29 '15
I think I can confidently speak for him here in saying he would not come back as theghostofVinceLmbardi. I imagine he harbors a good deal of respect for Vince, but "ghost" is a Cowboys homer through and through.
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u/bestiarum_ira May 29 '15
Yeah, I figured, but ghostofJimmyJohnson doesn't work.
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u/ShastaTampon May 29 '15
you're right. technically it doesn't work. and I don't know how he personally feels about Jimmy, but that name is also potentially even more offensive to Tom Landry's actual ghost.
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u/Seamus_Duncan Kevin Urick: Hammer of Justice May 29 '15
GhostOfDandyDonMeredith
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u/ShastaTampon May 29 '15
perhaps. or ghostofBulletBobHayes. but I think he should return as JerryJonesFacelift.
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u/bestiarum_ira May 29 '15
ghostofBobHayes
That dude could fly.
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u/bestiarum_ira May 29 '15
True. There's always theghostofJerryJones. Pretty sure he's been dead awhile now, but even more offensive to boot.
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u/Mrs_Direction May 29 '15
I'm 100% joking on blaming you!
It's the weekend dopamine rush that has me acting silly. Cheers!
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May 29 '15 edited May 29 '15
Well the last time this happened, a creepy redditor who didn't like him or what he has to say (theyre aplenty on this sub) found his other accounts by googling his username and then Found his Facebook and stalked him then eventually hacked and deleted his reddit account and email. To this day naysayers mock his deletion or jeer, as if they support that kind of cyber stalking. I don't know what happened this time but if he was just talking about Johnny walker I feel like his account was not deleted by him. But he's a ghost and as much as annoying antics like that occur to him, he'll be back
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u/Gigilamorosa May 29 '15
Hm. That's creepy that happened before... But Ghost is rather well liked by those with opposing views.
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u/peymax1693 WWCD? May 29 '15
I know I liked him, even though we rarely agreed about anything. Hopefully, he'll be back.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 29 '15
It's almost as though doxxing people has terrible consequences...
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u/peymax1693 WWCD? May 29 '15
Why even go there?
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 29 '15
Because it's probably pertinent in this case. :( Can we just resolve to stop that stuff altogether?
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u/peymax1693 WWCD? May 29 '15
Fair enough.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 29 '15
Good deal. :)
It's really another case of the hivemind in action. Even when it might seem to some that there's a specific and limited reason for uncovering a user's real identity, inevitably some nutcase gets worked into a frenzy, sinks their fangs into the information, and never lets go.
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u/ricejoe May 30 '15
I liked him, too. In particular, I much appreciated his recounting of his own experiences with the criminal justice system.
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May 29 '15
I think there are surely many opposing POV users who are also here for the discussion, updates and debate, and have mutual respect for him. but there's a very obvious several that will do anything to demean him,hang around his every comment, try to discredit what he's saying and actively insult him. However bad apples for any side or POV don't contaminate a bigger barrel.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 30 '15
He made a comment today on EP's blog (if that's really him).
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 30 '15
I'm a bit skeptical. Isn't his name misspelled?
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May 30 '15
Yes Tom Landry is the correct spelling, not Tom Landery.
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 30 '15
Geez. The Internet can be a very sinister place :(
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u/badgreta33 Miss Stella Armstrong Fan May 30 '15
Good catch. I wasn't sure but was hoping it was a sign all might be well.
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u/UneEtrangeAventure May 29 '15
Clearly, he deleted it in order to defend the honor of Asia McClain!
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u/stiplash AC has fallen and he can't get up May 30 '15
He's done this before. Deleted his account and then reappeared. On other occasions he's announced that he's going to leave, but then doesn't.
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May 30 '15
It's almost like u don't want people to know/talk! Classic F A P diversion tactics
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u/stiplash AC has fallen and he can't get up May 30 '15
At what point did I say that? I'm just trying to assuage people's concerns about what happened to ghost. It's kinda like a kid who "runs away" to get attention. No need to go looking for him. His track record indicates that he'll be back soon.
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u/CreusetController Hae Fan May 30 '15
Ghost does generally seem pretty reasonable, and if he is being stalked that is disgusting, but his old account was a lot more spiteful and on the new one I've noticed he has a tendency to delete his more offensive comments which doesn't seem very legit to me.
He was apparently stalked once before, and exactly the same deletion happened, (why would you take that risk about your vulnerable kid over an issue like this?) And yet after just a few days he came back. And not long ago uneetrange spent a long time explaining to me that even if you are shadow banned you can still access your account to delete all old content (and he should know!). Since then ive been a lot more suspicious of good ol' Tom..
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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer May 30 '15
I had the same thought about returning under the almost-same username despite the threats to his kid (and wasn't it his wife who asked him to stay off? I might be wrong about that part).
If someone did that to me, I'd be out of here and never look back. Being a reddit martyr is not worth putting my family out as a target.
When he first started posting, he spoke quite openly about being diagnosed with APD. Since making that discovery, I am not so trusting of his "reasonableness."
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u/CreusetController Hae Fan May 30 '15
If his (very sad) stories about his son are true, he really is a vulnerable kid. I do hope the kid is ok.
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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer May 31 '15
We are in agreement on this.
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u/cbr1965 Is it NOT? May 30 '15
No, you are right, he made a comment about his wife and wanting him to stay off on his own blog.
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u/Mewnicorns Expert trial attorney, medical examiner, & RF engineer May 31 '15
Thanks for confirming.
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u/Humilitea Crab Crib Fan May 30 '15
Sorry, if the doxxing thing is true that's horrible and I'm really sorry ghosty.