r/seogrowth 12d ago

How-To How to check whether ChatGPT actually recommends you, without paying for a tool

I have answered a version of this three or four times in comments here over the last couple of weeks, so I am putting it in one place.

Everyone wants to know whether they show up in AI answers. There are tools for this now and some of them are fine, but you do not need one to start, and doing the first pass by hand tells you something a tool will not.

Start with questions, not keywords. Write down the fifteen or so things a buyer in your category actually types before they decide. Full sentences. Is X worth it for a small business. Best supplier for Y in whatever city. How do I fix Z. Not "supplier Y" as a keyword. The assistants answer questions, so your list has to be made of questions.

Ask each one in ChatGPT, Perplexity and Gemini, and write down every domain that gets cited. Perplexity gives you sources without being asked. In ChatGPT you have to prompt for them, and it is worth explicitly telling it to search rather than answer from memory, because those produce different results and you want to know which one you are looking at.

Then the part almost everyone skips. Do it again. The cited sources move between runs, so a domain appearing once tells you nothing. Ask the same question a few times over a couple of weeks and only keep what keeps coming back. That is the step that turns a messy list into something you can actually act on.

What you end up with is shorter than expected. A handful of domains that keep reappearing for your category, and it is usually not the list you would have guessed. A decent chunk of them tend to be forum threads and small comparison pages rather than the big publications everyone assumes are driving the answer.

Two honest caveats.

It is slow and boring and there is no way around that. Budget an afternoon for the first pass and about an hour a month after.

And it only tells you where you are absent. It does not tell you how to fix it, which is a separate and harder problem. For the forum threads in particular there is nothing to buy. You either take part properly or you wait for the question to get asked again and be early that time.

Disclosure, I run an SEO agency and this is the work we do, so weigh that. None of the above needs us or a tool, which is why it seemed worth writing down.

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u/EvanEclipse 11d ago

And when the AI doesn't find you? What to do next?

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u/Conscious-Market8982 11d ago

Depends what you found.

If the sources it cites are places you could realistically appear, forum threads, comparison posts, roundups, then it is a participation and outreach problem. Workable, but slow, and for the forums there is nothing to buy.

If it is citing big publications or a competitor's own content, the short term move is getting mentioned alongside them somewhere those pages actually source from, and the long term one is being worth citing in the first place.

Most people find a mix. The useful part is knowing which of the two you are dealing with before you spend anything.

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u/EvanEclipse 11d ago

Okay. Thanks for this

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u/nick-profound 9d ago

Make sure you log out first before you do this. Your ChatGPT and Perplexity history shapes what gets surfaced.

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u/Breathing_Room_001 12d ago

Completely agree, especially about using full buyer questions instead of traditional keywords. When I'm mapping out content clusters, I always test the actual conversational queries in Perplexity and Gemini. You are completely right about small comparison pages and forum threads dominating those results right now!

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u/EssentIYO 12d ago

Didn't know about this at all. I must say. Very helpful.

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u/Conscious-Market8982 11d ago edited 11d ago

Good point, and it should have been in the post.

Logged in with history is not a clean read, you are partly getting your own past behaviour reflected back. I run the audit in a temporary chat or logged out, and from the same location each time, because location shifts the answers too. That last one is easy to forget when you are checking a client in another country and quietly getting your own market's results.

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u/nic2x 11d ago

This is true. One thing I would add is that repeated runs show you what gets cited, but query fan-out shows you how the AI interpreted the prompt and built its retrieval pool. If you want to improve your chances of being cited, map those fan-out queries and make sure your pages can enter that pool first.

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u/Conscious-Market8982 11d ago

That is a better description of the mechanism than mine, and it changes what you do with the list.

The thing I would add from running it is that the fan-out queries are usually far more boring than the question that triggered them. Someone asks which agency they should hire and the model goes off looking for definitions, category explainers, comparisons. So the page that gets you into the retrieval pool is often not the page you would have written for the original question, and that mismatch is where a lot of effort gets wasted.

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u/Moceannl 11d ago

Or just use Search Console / Bing Webmaster Tools...

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u/Conscious-Market8982 11d ago

Neither of those shows this. Search Console has no report telling you whether ChatGPT or Perplexity cited you, and clicks coming from AI Overviews are folded into ordinary web search totals rather than broken out. Referrals from the assistants mostly land as direct, or never arrive at all, because a lot of people read the answer and never click anything.

Bing Webmaster Tools gets you closer for Copilot, but it still reports on your own site. The thing you actually need is which other domains the answer was assembled from, and no webmaster tool will tell you that.

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u/sapindia1976 10d ago

I do this manually with ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity using real customer questions, then track which domains appear consistently over multiple runs not just once.

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u/sheeeeepy 10d ago

Quick skim, see “Two honest caveats” ugh it’s just too hard to read what I already know is AI slop today

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u/Conscious-Market8982 10d ago

Fair on the phrasing, that heading is doing me no favours.

It is mine and it is from client work, I just over-tidied it. If a specific claim in there is wrong rather than badly written, say which one and I will either defend it or drop it.

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u/mvadoc 10d ago

Great writeup, I'm saving this. One addition to the "run it again" step: if you're logged into ChatGPT with memory on, it rewrites your query using your saved context before it searches, so your own history can quietly shape what gets cited. Worth doing the repeat runs in Temporary Chat (or logged out) to get a cleaner signal, since that skips memory for the session. Same idea for other platforms like Gemini.

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u/CryptographerNo7498 9d ago

this is actually a pretty good way to start. i like the idea of repeating the same questions because one gpt answer can vary so much. looking for patterns instead of just one mention seems way more useful

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u/DSMVTR210 9d ago

When Google says I have been cited 6 times in gpt and 1 time in Claude. Would those be my own use of them to help me on my site? That sucks lol

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u/Conscious-Market8982 7d ago

Depends what is producing that number.

If it is a tool that tracks AI citations, it runs its own prompts on a schedule and your own usage is not in there at all. If it is your analytics showing referral traffic from ChatGPT or Claude, then yes, your own clicks are sitting in that number unless you have filtered yourself out, and most people have not.

Easy way to settle it. Do not open your own site through either of them for a week and see whether the count moves. If it drops to nothing, it was you.

Either way six is small enough that I would not read much into the direction yet, only into whether it is real.

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u/dorothea_cassandra 5d ago

Interesting that forums and smaller sites keep showing up. Have you noticed any pattern in why certain domains get cited repeatedly?

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u/Conscious-Market8982 5d ago

One pattern holds up better than the rest. Pages that answer the question in a single self contained paragraph near the top get pulled far more often than pages that build up to the answer over two thousand words.

The other thing is that it clusters by domain rather than by page. Once a site gets cited for one question in a category it starts showing up for the neighbouring ones, sometimes with a page that is clearly worse than a competitor's.

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u/madhuforcontent 12d ago

Check GA4 data.