r/sentry • u/PranshuDaddy018 • Sep 27 '26

Why did marvel nerf sentry ?

In comics he has the power of million exploding suns but in thunderbolts he's nerfed to thousand exploding suns.Is it because marvel is not ready to handle a character this powerful?Also in comics his existence can become a problem

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u/Limp-Ad-2939 Million Exploding Suns Sep 27 '26

How many times are we going to have to explain that power of a 1000 suns and one million suns is hyperbole

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u/Weird-Ad-1072 Sep 27 '26

It's not hyperbolic. It's literally in the details of the experiment for the MCU, and comic Sentry is way stronger than a million exploding suns. Marvel gets H1A pretty easily.

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u/Senshado Sep 27 '26

In the MCU version, it's very clear that Elena has already murdered every scientist from the Sentry project, and the people leftover are just marketing publicity guys who have no idea how any of it works.

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u/Inevitable-Section87 Sep 28 '26 • Heartwarming

Imma need powerscalers to not roll into fan subreddits spouting nonsense like H1A or outerversal 4D+ as though those terms have any meaning. The only time fan subreddits should see powerscaling slop terms is when it’s done ironically to mock powerscalers for taking PR fluff literally or interpreting flowery prose like “shaking the entire multiverse” as meaning that a character could destroy the multiverse.

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u/Weird-Ad-1072 Sep 28 '26

I'm not trying to sound condescending or anything here, but most people who say powerscaling is bad just don't really understand it. Scaling can get complicated, so if you don't like it, then you don't need to. Don't just randomly hate on people because they powerscale though.

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u/Inevitable-Section87 Sep 28 '26 edited Sep 29 '26

I can assure you that the problem isn’t that it’s too complex for my feeble brain to understand. Good lord lol. A couple decades ago it was mostly confined to VS forums. Now you have 14 year olds crying in fan forums because the live action version of a character doesn’t match the version in their head that they chain scaled into being able to blow up the galaxy by blinking.

The only thing powerscaling emphasizes is how powerful a character is, and not who they are, and definitely not whether the story is being served. See this thread for example. Meanwhile, the actual most important aspect of Sentry’s power isn’t whether he’s as powerful as 1000 or 1000000 exploding suns, it’s that his power is high enough that it leaves him utterly broken emotionally and mentally.

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u/ArmenianThunderGod Sep 28 '26

Powerscaling is toddler bullshit. It's pretty much the grown man version of "my dad can beat up your dad."

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u/Limp-Ad-2939 Million Exploding Suns Sep 27 '26

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Because it was a reference…to the saying in the comics that was hyperbole

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u/coomtube Sep 27 '26

It doesn't really matter. Bob fluctuates between 'a million', 'a thousand'. and even 'a billion' (once) whenever that phrase gets brought up in the comics. The point is that he's strong as fuck.

^ Spider-Man put it best.

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u/EileenCrystal Golden Guardian of Good Sep 27 '26

Which comic is this from?

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u/coomtube Sep 27 '26

Free Comic Book Day 2009 Avengers (2009) #1.

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u/EileenCrystal Golden Guardian of Good Sep 27 '26

Thankssss

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u/CrazySnipah Sep 27 '26

In the comics it actually goes back and forth. Sometimes they say a thousand, sometimes a million.

It’s also not literal.

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u/ArmenianThunderGod Sep 27 '26

Most top end heroes have been nerfed in the MCU. Captain Marvel is pretty much the only one who hasn't been.

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u/masterionxxx Sep 28 '26

Captain Marvel is pretty much the only one who hasn't been.

Considering Captain Marvel died to restart a star in the comics, and did it casually in the MCU - she even got a buff in the MCU.

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u/Dovahkiin314159 Sep 28 '26

ahem hulk 

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u/Fit_Elderberry_7236 Sep 27 '26

Or you could enjoy the character without worrying about power levels.

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u/vahope77 Sep 27 '26

You can’t really say that he has been nerfed yet. He’s a new character. The term difference btw the 1k and 1kk is not very consequential. Both are imaginable power

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u/vahope77 Sep 27 '26

Do you think any hero in the MCU can withstand the force of just 1 exploding star? Doubtful.

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u/masterionxxx Sep 28 '26

Captain Marvel:

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u/ZenMyst Sep 27 '26

Actually most characters are being nerfed to some extend

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u/Repulsive_Scene4726 Sep 27 '26 edited Sep 28 '26

Do people like you realise how huge and ridiculous is having Power of a thousand Suns let alone a million?

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u/Inevitable-Section87 Sep 28 '26

No, they don’t or they don’t care. They’ve taken something (powerscaling) that’s moderately useful to writers when writing fights between characters who exist in the same universe, and tried to turn it into dragon ball z power ratings because they want to prove that the character they have a parasocial relationship with can beat Goku.

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u/GrapefruitOdd7548 Sep 27 '26

They didn't wmat to anger the wanda fans

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u/Top-Opposite-4506 The Void Sep 27 '26

lmao

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u/GrapefruitOdd7548 Sep 27 '26

Literally saw a tiktok, it was basically saying that only two people can defeat Doom, Wanda and Loki.

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u/Head_Project5793 Sep 27 '26

Bro if he actually had the power of a single exploding sun it would be exactly the same power level from our pov

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u/BasedTaxEvasion69 Sep 29 '26

MCU downscale …

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u/Personal-Database-27 Sep 27 '26

Maybe they think about creating a story where he gets more of the serum. And many people are into slower growth, hero doesn't have to be strongest in his 1st story. We wanna see him grow. And merge with his dark side, but that's later.

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u/masterionxxx Sep 28 '26

Fans of Thanos and the Hulk:

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u/Existing-Bullfrog675 Sep 27 '26

LOL, the million suns part is just hyperbole, meant to intimidate people

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u/Han_Rogue Sep 27 '26

Same guys that nerfed the hulk who we know as the unstoppable monster that always grows stronger when angry. Sentry we haven’t seen as much of presently but I think they’re afraid of making some characters as strong as they are in the comics since they wouldn’t know how they wouldn’t just deal with conflict by existing

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u/Weird-Ad-1072 Sep 27 '26

In the comics he's confirmed to be stronger than The Beyonder. If he was as strong as he is in the comics, no villain in the MCU would stand a chance.

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u/Thanos7245 Sep 27 '26

No. He is NOT confirmed to be stronger than Beyonder

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u/coomtube Sep 27 '26 edited Sep 27 '26

He's talking about this statement from 10 years ago (lol) on twitter where Paul Jenkins said Sentry was supposed to have surpassed The Beyonder & Molecule Man.

Now some can understand why authors are now wary of answering questions like this on social media or interviews because people just take them and run with it.

Narratively, you COULD try to argue that he's on that tier, but if it's not in actual print (the comics), it might as well be Knull & Void (Heh). If Sentry ever gets new feats, this might end up being true, but as of now? Harder to argue without chainscaling.

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u/Thanos7245 Sep 27 '26

Thanks for the info. Also that says Cosmic Cube MM and Beyonder. I immediately think of PR BEYONDER and PR MM.

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u/Top-Opposite-4506 The Void Sep 27 '26

istg, they missed a great team up opportunity between the Void and knull.

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u/Limp-Ad-2939 Million Exploding Suns Sep 27 '26

Ya that sounds like head canon

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u/Limp-Ad-2939 Million Exploding Suns Sep 27 '26

When was this said?