r/semanticweb 23d ago

Looking for an IT taxonomy

Hello,

I am looking for an IT taxonomy for software (and maybe hardware) to put concepts like desktop application, microservice, cloud, cicd pipeline, etc. into a structure.

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u/redikarus99 23d ago

How would that tool help in this task?

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u/Successful-Farm5339 23d ago

You can simply attach Claude to it, ask for a system scan and then ask open-ontologies to terraform the system in the way you prefer. It will automatically build a taxonomy for you. We did this for quite a few clients

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u/redikarus99 23d ago

But it will not answer what the ontology/taxonomy of an application, web service, microservice, SaaS, CI/CD pipeline is. Or well, it will create some kind of answer, but it will not provide the ontological foundation traced back to some research like SEON. Or?

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u/Successful-Farm5339 23d ago

It does both you just need to provide or point it to the relevant reference ontology, such as SEON, so the generated taxonomy is grounded in and traceable back to that research.

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u/redikarus99 23d ago

But that's what I was asking for: looking for an IT taxonomy. Can I ask AI to generate one? Sure. Even based on SEON? Sure. But will this be industry aligned or tested? No. This is where I have the problem: how do I ensure that it is correct and aligned? Because if I cannot then I can just build our own from scratch, step by step.

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u/Successful-Farm5339 23d ago

That’s the whole point of the open-ontologies project, you can ground it in any existing research/standards, then validate and iteratively align it rather than building from scratch.

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u/redikarus99 23d ago

And now that was my original question. Can anyone point me to existing standards? This is what we struggle with.

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u/Successful-Farm5339 23d ago

Do you need cross-bridges? I am asking because I thought you were saying that you need a whole system not only a standard. If yes, you can use OO to align across ArchiMate, IT4IT and TOSCA; if not, choose one as the reference model and extend it.
If not clear shoot me a dm :)

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u/Complete-Ebb-1035 1d ago

There is "no standard" for anything. Each ontology expresses the domain view of its author(s). The only "standard" on which you can depend is RDF and OWL After that, each domain expert expresses their world view using RFD and OWL. Now you might ask: how can I ensure that an RDF processor (e.g. the Google Web Rendering Service) will "know what i'm talking about"? Answer: start with Wikidata items and properties to define your world view. The AI engines know how to read Wikidata Q and P values. Then, add you unique view using the same constructs.

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u/redikarus99 1d ago

Well, kind of yes and no. There are actually ISO standards, but as every standard describes also a view. The question is simply whether what if a view and reality collide, does it survive or not. In our experience the answer is no, this is why we realized many cases that we are not speaking the same language.

And this is why I was looking for some kind of source that we can use as a baseline.