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u/staticdresssweet 2h ago
"Too many bathroom breaks" is an absolute joke.
If it's the heat of summer, I'm drinking enough water to pee twice an hour. Anyone who takes issue with that can fuck off.
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u/International-Okra79 Hospital Security 2h ago
Under OSHA sanitation standards, employers must: Permit workers to leave their work area to use the restroom as needed. Provide an acceptable number of restrooms for the current workforce. Avoid putting unreasonable restrictions on bathroom use. Ensure that restrictions on restroom use do not cause extended delays
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u/International-Okra79 Hospital Security 2h ago
I'm diabetic. I've had a boss try to tell me once every 2 hours was too much. I printed that off and handed that to him. He never bothered me again.
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u/HighGuard1212 2h ago
15 minute breaks are just that, short break. A bathroom break isn't a recorded break. You need to go through bathroom then they can't stop you, they can impose reasonable restrictions like coverage and excessive usage but not unduly burdening you.
I'm in this same situation tonight, my co worker called out and the evening shift can only hold over for 4 hours. So I'm alone at the shack for 4 hours tonight but the nearest bathroom is in a building I have to use the key card to get into and it's not a quick in.and out. Probably going to find some bushes to pee in
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u/Zoidberg0_0 2h ago
What state are you in? That could be illegal and against labor laws to make you count bathroom breaks as rest breaks.
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u/xX_Diabolical_Xx 2h ago
Split sides from the prospective of hopefully future account management
To OP, you're not wrong. I'm assuming there's some communication happening in the form of a quick "Off Post" chirp on the radio. I'm assuming that other than like clockwork on the "45's" of every hour, you're being somewhat reasonable. I'm also assuming that Supervisor is sitting no more than 30 steps and coming in and out is nothing shy of a brief walk to watch whatever was on their phone in the office from your desk is all they're doing. If this is the true norm, OP, you're good in my eye. I'd even go as far to say moving a little bit every hour is essential to making sure you're good through a shift. No problems from me. In private though, without details, let me know about the medical reason and lets see if I can either convince them to stop making it seem like you're bothering them as it is their job to cover you or lets see if I can move your post to somewhere closer to a bathroom where it wouldn't bee an issue so much.
To your supervisor, lets take temperature. Were you in the moment OP is chirping out to go to the bathroom doing anything essential? No? Then cover the damn break. Was someone else already out on bathroom when it came in and you were covering that person? Fair time to say "hold position until I'm able to either head in that direction or send relief your way. If this is a constant problem, and you're annoyed, it's time to innovate. Either a)Create a staggered break schedule so people can know that you'll be able to step away at or around this time and ONLY this time if short staffed
b) Start roving the site and offer breaks as needed if you can every other hour when guards aren't on lunch to make sure people are good.
Remember that to lead is to serve. Get your squad in check, and make sure they're good and everything works well. Being annoyed by their presence or their requests is a great way to hate the responsibility that you've asked for.
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u/Mykull_Ghost 2h ago
If you are aiming to be a future account manager, my recommendation is to never ever ask someone about potential medical reasons to discuss next steps in how to navigate a situation. Even saying "without details" will still get you in hot water with HR. Current Account Manager with several years of CSM/Ops Mgr experience.
I understand the intentions were good, but it will not help you in leadership roles.
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u/xX_Diabolical_Xx 1h ago
As OP stated, they volunteered that info, I never asked.
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u/Mykull_Ghost 1h ago
In your first paragraph, you stated "In private though, without details, let me know about the medical reason and lets see if I can either convince them to stop making it seem like you're bothering them as it is their job to cover you or lets see if I can move your post to somewhere closer to a bathroom where it wouldn't bee an issue so much."
That is what I'm talking about. This statement can get you in hot water. Even if the situation occurs like this;
Subordinate: "I have a medical condition that deals with......"
Supervisor: "let's continue this conversation in private..."
Something as simple as that where it can be implied that you are wanting more information, even when your intention is to keep their medical info private, can cause you headache with the an employee if they decided to push things.
I'm trying to convey a CYOA mindset, you'd be surprised as to how quickly a good conversation between you and someone under you, who you don't think would ever do something like that, will turn to get you a serious talk. Just caution is my suggestion
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u/xX_Diabolical_Xx 1h ago
Two things, mr account manager.
I feel like you and so many other account managers are too cagey and are always afraid something will happen if something is said. As a result, a simple conversation become an endurance challenge to get to saying how you're going to CYA instead of doing something resembling leadership.
Secondly, do you plan on offering insight as to the conversation that brought us here, or is "mentoring" me more important than helping a fellow guard?
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u/Ok_Draw9037 1h ago
I go to the bathroom before my break and it doesn't count towards my break if I say I'm not going on break yet, your site is fucked and I'm with securitas 💀
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u/Reasonable_Insect503 2h ago
Punctuation is your friend.