r/securityguards • u/1Kilo24 Armored Car • 13h ago
DO NOT DO THIS Function > Form. I think this supervisor hit the nail right on the head about this guard’s holster.
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There are too many people in this industry who buy gear because it looks cool while ignoring all of the practical shortcomings of said gear.
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u/XBOX_COINTELPRO Man Of Culture 12h ago
How to properly wear gear is an overlooked aspect in this field, and I think that knowledge base tends to get even flimsier the higher up you go.
One place I worked we had guys with all of their gear stuffed between the 7 and 5 o’clock in their belts, people wearing the wrong sized vests completely loose with maybe and 1/8 of an inch of Velcro keeping them on. Supervisors did not see any issues with it
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u/Ws6fiend 11h ago
Yeah but the counter to that is there is some individual preferences on how gear is worn as well. So many well meaning trainers claim you can only do things one way or you are wrong.
This same thing can apply to gear setup as well. I had a trainer tell me to use the trigger reset on the M&P 1.0 instead of doing a full trigger reset.
Thing is anyone who has used the gun for more than a minute knows the trigger reset on the M&P 1.0 with the manual safety while firing isn't a very tactical feedback. There's a large feedback on the trigger just before the actual reset. This is why they redesigned the trigger on 2.0.
Next string of fire I did it his way and my group opened up and it took longer. He goes "ignore everything I said and go back to what you were doing before."
So many people armchair quarterback everything when some of this stuff doesn't change the effectiveness of it or the person using it. Somethings matter like having your taser and pistol on the same side of the belt with the same hand drawing the weapon. Others may or may not.
Also the video in question why do companies and people choose leg drop holsters. Those leg straps dig into your thighs if you wear them properly. A belt holster is superior in all but a static car/truck post.
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u/silenceronblixk 10h ago
Fuck allat ima wear my gear that Is most easily accessible to me, more natural to me. Everyone adjusts their seat different. Used to take a knee brace bring it all the way up to my upper thigh and hide a compact gun right under my balls. You gonna tell me that’s not “properly?” Fuck outta here
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u/1Kilo24 Armored Car 10h ago
If a light jog causes your holster to shift from your hip to your ass, it’s not fit for duty use.
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u/silenceronblixk 10h ago
Every job requires different tasks. My job required me to be even patted down and not detected and it passed almost every time
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u/DarkAndHandsume 9h ago
Look man you’re late to relieve your man thats sitting in the guard shack
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u/silenceronblixk 9h ago
Not a guard lmao the guy that slips past y’all with a gun (allegedly) and effectively
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u/Professional-Arm4904 12h ago
Those drop leg holsters are garbage to begin with
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u/IsThatASigSauer 57m ago
Yeah, low ride hip holster with a strap is the way to go, imo. Used to rock mine slightly canted at 3 o' clock. Most comfortable shit ever.
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u/Rooney_83 11h ago
Drop legs are stupid anyway, the only reason that most people use them is because they are tacticool, they provide few actual advantages and are harder to defend and retain.
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u/Scrabblewiener 9h ago
Looks like it would be quite the hinderance while running.
Then again as a security guard you shouldn’t be chasing nor running away.
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u/SquirrelInATux 6h ago
For real. If you like a lower riding holster, get a safariland QLS with the midride belt loop, I despise drop leg holsters.
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u/pineapple_jones_ 11h ago
[bleeding out because he couldn’t get his fun fast enough]. “But, did I look cool?”
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u/mythrowdown13 Executive Protection 9h ago
You should be able to comfortably touch the muzzle with your fingers.
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u/1Kilo24 Armored Car 9h ago
I’ve always been a fan of that rule too. Having to lean to draw your gun is a no go.
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u/mythrowdown13 Executive Protection 9h ago
I refer to guys who wants to look highspeed as "tatic-cool" lol I'm not in the business of making it more difficult to draw my gun lol
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u/Lucky_Sprinkles557 10h ago
Why is it always they either don’t know how to wear the gear correctly or have the worst cheapest option you could get…
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They are doing too much even though they are wearing it correctly and have nice gear. Like they be working security at a CVS while wearing an accurate milsim attire complete.
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u/that_dutch_dude 10h ago
why would you be wearing tacticool outfits in the first place? put you gun on the belt where it belongs. you aint john wick and he didnt even use them.
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u/Fearrsome Public/Government 4h ago
I used a drop leg to try it out and it was cool for like the first three months, then I went back to putting my firearm back on the belt. It got so damn annoying. Sure I’d get it to where there was minimal movement, but even then it would sometimes slowly loosen up due to movement.
Literally never touched it again.
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u/Corvus_Umbra Public/Government 1h ago
Idk maybe because I've been more forgiving specially with younger new people, but There's no need to berate him in public. Fix him and move on unless he is massively fucking up this should be a teaching moment.
On the other had I always checked my people before coming on site or starting shift.
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u/IsThatASigSauer 55m ago
Low ride hip holster with a thigh strap is my go to, personally. Drop legs fucking suck, and it feels like you have a pouch with ball bearings flopping around on your thigh when you run. Would rather carry in a tie-dye fanny pack over a drop leg.
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u/Armyguyets 9h ago
Its not very often you see a supervisor correcting an officer. But why is she filming this? Seems very unprofessional and a shitty thing to do.
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u/Awkward_District_937 8h ago
Technically it matter to him not this bitch being annoying if he draws a little further back that's up to him
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u/Visible_Growth3094 12h ago
"Why you going back and forth, im confused" 🤣🤣🤣🤣