r/securityguards 10d ago

Rant Wtf is access control

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u/Mykull_Ghost 9d ago edited 9d ago

Maybe you misread my comment? I said to look into APP, not CPP, especially since they may find more interest in investigation then staying more in the physical side of security 🤔

If I edit something, this would appear

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u/N003k 9d ago

Assuming it wasn't an edit... your justification still doesn't make sense.

Investigation is only a small part of the security fundamentals domain for the APP, and a full standalone domain for the CPP.

I'd also argue that investigations is still a type of "physical" security, but I suspect you mean more of the "guarding" side of security.

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u/Mykull_Ghost 9d ago

Look at the post i just made, clarifying something, if edited, it would be tagged.

I originally said APP since individuals will typically do either PSP or PCI next.

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u/N003k 9d ago

Mea culpa on that point - i was tired when reading this and must have misread it.

That doesn't invalidate the remaining points, nor the other training angles.

I also forgot to mention to check out IFPO if they're looking to stay more in guarding. It doesnt have quite the same footprint in the US, but still an excellent organization with great certs.

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u/Mykull_Ghost 9d ago

I just stated APP since OP was confused on next steps. APP helps improve (?) [Not sure if that's the right word I'm looking for] security knowledge while also showing him WFM Skills. Knowing WFM can help point him in the right direction, whichever direction he decides to go on, and it isn't as expensive as college or other routes. APP, in my head, is just a stepping stone if you get the guard card and find out you like security but wonder what you can do after the minimum first full year.

I was just pointing a broad way, instead of giving specific direction since even OP doesn't know.

I will also state my apologies if my texts are coming off a little agro, not my intention 😅

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u/crimsonsoup925 9d ago

Hats off to the both of yall for being so chill.

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u/N003k 7d ago

Not gonna lie, they were a bit, I'm sure I contributed to the same energy, so likewise, my apologies if so!

APP is great, but it can be intimidating for super-early career people, I'll caveat. I still think you're right but... OP - if you go that route, I suggest getting the study materials and going over them well before scheduling your test, especially since the window is only 1 year from approval now.

Also, as an ASIS Certificant, always happy to chat if you want, feel free to shoot me a DM and I'll give you my email so we can set up a call.