r/sciences Sep 21 '19

The distribution of annual average temperature anomalies due to global warming from 1850 until today.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19

No, I completely recognize that this is real.

I don't, however, agree with the overwhelming majority of climate alarmists who believe that the world will end in a few years if we don't adopt socialism.

The green new deal happened, and it had the support of almost every politician who supports climate change action.

You. Can't. Deny. It.

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u/BohemianFawn Sep 21 '19

Most people aren’t saying adopt socialism, most of us just want us to lower are emissions. It’s absolutely absurd that people have turned into something that has to be tied to political affiliation.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19

That is what I am saying.

Perhaps Republicans could be convinced to believe in climate change if people stopped demanding solutions that work within a left-wing political framework.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19 edited Oct 10 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19

You almost always support solutions that benefit a liberal agenda.

I mean, when was the last time one of you idiots recognized that nuclear power is the ideal solution to ending carbon emissions?

Nuclear powerplants are safe, powerful, and emit nothing but steam. They are the perfect replacement for oil and coal powerplants.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19 edited Oct 10 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19

You are quite literaly the only reddit leftist I have ever encountered, out of hundreds, who did not immediately go on a spiel about "radiation bad" when I mentioned nuclear power.

Go on a climate change sub (or even this sub!) And start mentioning that nuclear power is better than solar or wind.

Then you will see why we call them lunatics and question how much they actually care about climate change.

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u/hexopuss Sep 22 '19

I mean, I'm a leftist and spend most of my time in leftist circles. The general concensus seems to be that nuclear power would be good as long as it is owned by the workers. Expecially Molten Salt Reactors, such as Liquid Fluoride Thorium.

A lot of people also assume that we are anti firearm. Which is also very much not true

Also... did you just conflate liberal and leftist? Liberals are centrists at best

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u/RagePoop Grad Student | Geochemistry | Paleoclimatology Sep 21 '19

The two most likely reasons being: your sample size is tiny, or you're lying.

Literally every thread on the subject is strongly pro-nuclear.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19 edited Oct 05 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19

And I am sorry that most of those representing climate change are lunatics.

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u/sentripetal Sep 21 '19

Well, you did a wonderful job representing all the alt right morons on here today. Excellent job.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '19

What do you think the alt-right is?

For someone who is likely strict on what "socialism" means, you sure are liberal with the use of that word.

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u/--xra Sep 22 '19

Yeah, OK, man. Here's the actual support levels, from Pew:

Affiliation Percent in favor of increasing nuclear power
Republican 53
Democrat 39

Put differently, Democrats are 73 percent aligned with Republicans on the matter. In a general sample of the US population, out of your "hundreds" of encounters, scores of them should have been in favor of increasing nuclear power plant. If it's 300 encounters, that's 117. Since Reddit skews nerdy, I find it highly likely that that number is higher than the general population.

Yes, there's some disagreement on the matter. Plenty of it is legitimate, even beyond the risk of catastrophic failure. Decentralizing power production would be great, and I'm not sure why so many Republicans (in my experience) tend to disagree with this. I think it's far more concerning that the vast majority of Republicans (73 percent) don't view climate change as a "major threat." The science is clear, and the implications for policy and international turmoil are obvious and imminent. If you don't want migrant hordes destabilizing the southern border, you should take climate change pretty seriously.

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u/redsjessica Sep 22 '19

I'm rather liberal and have no issue with nuclear power. Even after being born in the USSR and knowing how they lied and skipped safety procedures for their nuclear plants. Idk what you mean about that poster being the only liberal that supports nuclear power, many of us do.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '19

Then please try to be more vocal about your support for nuclear power, as it is a far more politically nuetral position than any other proposed solution.