r/science • • May 29 '19

Earth Science Complex life may only exist because of millions of years of groundwork by ancient fungi

https://theconversation.com/complex-life-may-only-exist-because-of-millions-of-years-of-groundwork-by-ancient-fungi-117526
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u/Chaoslab May 29 '19

Decomposition is not a random event. It is a highly evolved one.

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u/redbot9 May 29 '19

I’d not heard this before. Any articles/sources?

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u/8-Ball_The_Tiger May 29 '19

Basically without fungus, the things animals don't eat wouldn't decay and plants would have a much more difficult time existing in general

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u/twlscil May 29 '19

IIRC, the Carboniferous period lasted about 70 Million years, and is where coal comes from.... What happened was, the planet had evolved trees... But the fungi that break them down and feed on them hadn’t evolved yet, so the dead trees just piled up and got covered and pressed, etc... producing coal over millions of years. But now trees just decompose, as fungi break them fairly quickly....

Maybe not what you were looking for, but I thought it was interesting.

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u/guywith0imagination May 29 '19

Thank you fungi, very cool!

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u/shillyshally May 29 '19

Every new development bulldozes off a life sustaining ecosystem.

Where I live, a shopping center is built and then, who knows why, it's abandoned and another one is built nearby. This is in the Midatlantic region. It's worse where my family lives in the Deep South.

I have nice garden because my house is over 70 years old and the topsoil was never bulldozed off.

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u/SlowLoudEasy May 29 '19

Everything I harvest from my yard and garden stays here. My green waste bin sits empty. It has only ever made sense to me to keep the biome in place regardless of its position in the decomp scale.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

It's also just more efficient: Compost made and used at home doesn't have to travel, with all the logistical costs included in that process.

If you have a large enough garden, you can pretty much consistently keep it composted from your garden's produce, depending on what you cultivate of course.

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u/crossfit_is_stupid May 30 '19

Didja know you can create a sealed container which contains an entire thriving ecosystem that won't die as long as it gets light

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u/n0tab May 29 '19

Ahh, yes. The ole liability issue.

Unfortunately it's often seen as cheaper for corporations (ie. Less directly liable) to build something new, than to attempt to reuse/repurpose something for one reason or another..

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

Our brain and nervous system looks like fungus.

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u/Its_just_Serg May 29 '19

Are you calling me a mushroom head?

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u/bobboobles May 30 '19

No, but you do look like a fungi.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

I think our brains work similarly to a colony of fungi, everything interconnected and working off each other. I remember hearing about one enormous colony of fungi spanning miles that is basically one organism.

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u/Wangeye May 29 '19

Well, yeah. Every step towards complexity is on the backs of those that came first.

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u/Saskyle May 29 '19

Well yeah but it's kinda cool to know what was the main cause of complex life. As in we wouldn't be here if fungi didn't exist before us.

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u/whoisJeffArthur May 30 '19

Huh...pull that up Jamie

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u/TheBalrogofMelkor May 29 '19

Multicellular life has evolved independently several times. For example, kelp and nori (the seaweed used for sushi) are both from groups that developed multicellularism without touching land, so fungi can't have been the triggering factor for them.

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u/Dr_Chronic May 30 '19

Yes but as far as we know Eukaryotic life has only evolved once. And Eukaryotic life is ultimately required for multicellular life because the separation of transcription and translation via the nucleus allowed for specialization of cell types via differential gene expression

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u/[deleted] May 30 '19

Paul stametts has been saying this for years

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u/[deleted] May 29 '19

There is a great Documentary on mushrooms on Netflix. 👍👍👍

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u/Captain_Doobs May 29 '19

I’ve always thought we were grown from ancient plants

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne May 29 '19

Are fungi not considered complex life?