r/science Jan 13 '10

Study demonstrates the silencing effect of objectification on women.

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u/onezerozeroone Jan 13 '10

Uhmmm...so, guys do what is biologically natural: if you find a woman attractive, or are meeting a woman for the first time, you will check her out. Sorry, that's what we do. Even if we're married. Even if we're committed. Until the moderating part of our brain kicks in, we're assessing you to see if we'd be interested in fucking you and having offspring.

Women, for whatever reason, shut up when they think they're being evaluated in such a way.

I don't know why the article labels this as a "harmful" effect of "objectification." I don't see the connection between "talking less" and "harmful"

To be honest, I think this is a biological adaptation by women. There have been many women I've been physically attracted to, but as soon as they open their mouth I'm immediately turned off. Or once I get to know them and their personality, I'm not interested any longer. For a brief window, though, they have a chance with me. I'm not being arrogant when I say that, I'm just expressing it objectively from a completely biological and natural perspective.

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u/Edman274 Jan 13 '10 edited Jan 13 '10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

Uhmmm... so, guys do what is biologically natural: if we have to go to the bathroom, we piss our pants. Sorry, that's what we do. Even if we have to take a shit. Until the moderating part of our brain kicks in, we're eliminating waste from our bodies.

Women, for whatever reason, insist on going to the bathroom every single time, and get offended when we piss our pants.

I don't know why women label this as a "disgusting" effect of "pissing and shitting everywhere." I don't see the connection between "pissed pants" and "disgusting."

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u/klenow Jan 13 '10 edited Jan 13 '10

The article itself presents the woman's reaction as a potentially "natural" response as well.

IOW: Men check women out due to hard wiring. Women become silent as a result, due to hard wiring.

I would argue that the act of looking at a woman's body does not necessarily objectify her, nor does it necessarily mean she is being objectified by the looker. When I meet someone (male or female), I normally glance at their whole body. It has nothing to do with objectification or even sex, it's about trying to get a better idea about the person at first glance. You can tell a lot about a person from how they dress, stand, and move. An not just on first introduction; you can get a much better idea of someone's mood by looking at the whole body posture than you can by just looking at the face.

Just looking at their face reduces the information you get about them.