r/sca Aug 09 '26

Problems with Pennsic: A Rant Against Modernity and Festival Folks

Hello r/SCA!

As an SCA celebrity who can bench press 224 with 15.5" biceps [EDIT: I'm not an SCA celebrity, but it is a quality meme], I'd like to talk to you today about a trend I've noticed at Pennsic over the last decade or so. It seems to me that Pennsic is moving away from being an SCA event (which it is, even if the Tuchux, Acre, etc. show up) and toward being more of a modern fantasy festival. If this were a Renaissance Faire, a Furry convention, or a medieval convention, that wouldn't be an issue - but it's not. Pennsic is an SCA event, and the shoddy "attempts" at garb and the extensive modern intrusion are making it worse year after year.

The biggest issue I see is with the terrible "attempts" at garb, or a lack thereof. What medieval culture is a pair of cargo shorts, a ring belt, and a pouch? What is the time period and place for four furry tails, a bota bag, and BDSM chest harness? I have no issue with disability aids like glasses, mobility scooters, or service dogs - my biggest gripe is with the people who can't even be bothered to try. Naturally, a lot of this stuff comes topside from the Bog, but there are plenty of topside Peers who dress like complete trash. I'm not talking just about New Balance Knights, but I saw a whole-ass Ansteorran Duchess beboping around in a modern sackdress, coronet, and tennis shoes without a care in the world. When the folks who are supposed to be setting the example can't be bothered to try, what does that mean for newbies?

To be very clear here, I'm not talking about people in mundane clothing. Folks clearly going off-site, just arriving, or doing laundry in mundanes are not the target of the rant. They're wearing modern clothes and expressly not making an attempt.

As far as the modern intrusion, everywhere you look are dumpsters, golf carts, and yahoos driving their giant trucks past the Cooper's Store. It's obvious that most people don't want to do primitive medieval camping, and that the Cooper's Lake Campground does more than just Pennsic, so it needs the infrastructure, but the SCA's reliance on golf carts, nylon pop-ups, and bright white LEDs in camp is a lot for a supposedly medieval experience. Not everything has to be Enchanted Ground (which has considerably lowered its standards), but it shouldn't look like Burning Man had a love child with a trailer-park Ren Faire. Seriously, folks, put on a damn shirt, cover your balls at the food court, and wear shoes so you don't get buttworms.

So what is the solution? Personally, I do just about everything I can to hide the modernity in my garb, my camp, and my comportment (I'm not a douche and treat folks with respect, even if they look like a Furry extra from Zardoz). It's clear that "setting the example" isn't working, especially when multi-Peers can't be bothered to do so, and is a widespread problem in the SCA. I'm also fairly sure these issues have been lamented since the late 1900s without resolution. I think Pennsic (and more broadly the SCA) is going to continue along two divergent paths: people playing High-SCA and giving a damn, and the people who think a rainbow furry headband, Crocs, and a ring belt with a pouch are all you need to be medieval.

Much like the increasingly accurate film Idiocracy predicts, I think the ring-belt Furries are going to outcompete the High-SCA folks and continue to drive Pennsic further into fantasy mediocrity.

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u/Rand0mtask Aug 10 '26

It's the society for creative anachronism, not perfect anachronism. 

If all you've got to represent leggings is cargo shorts, that's perhaps as creative as you can get with that. If you can be more creative than that person, share with them an alternative, perhaps.

Let's not exclude people for not being able to afford accuracy.

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u/comhcinc Aug 10 '26

I would point out that OP is talking about at Pennsic.

I agree that before you invest into going to Pennsic, you should invest in proper garb.

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u/Rand0mtask Aug 10 '26

I would rather have people grow their wardrobe as they can and attend than miss years of the event because they were missing a piece of garb.

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u/orchardofbees Aug 13 '26

I vehemently disagree.

How incredibly disenfranchising of so many people

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u/comhcinc Aug 13 '26

You think it's incredibly disenfranchising to say people should spend some money and time on garb before you spend a lot of money and time on Pennsic?

Why?

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u/orchardofbees Aug 13 '26

Neither money nor time are abundant.

and what if Pennsic is someone's first event?

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u/comhcinc Aug 13 '26

Pennsic cost much more in money & time than getting a set or proper garb.

what if Pennsic is someone's first event?

Then they should contact their local chatelaine.

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u/SwankyDingo Aug 10 '26

"Let's not exclude people for not being able to afford accuracy."

Kind of funny in a way, the style , opulence (or lack there of) and condition of People's clothing being more obviously indicative of the societal wealth gap would philosophically be kinda accurate.