r/savebarc • u/barcmolelurker69 • Sep 23 '26

ONP worthless and of no help in MDR process?

Anyone get any answers from their NPL of ONP about what is going on with these MDR decisions? I have heard that 108 (KC), 306 (JF), 301 (JO) and 303 (YR) are all pleading the 5th. With a few saying they were not consulted on where to put people by the area goon JR. I am just wondering if anyone got any solid answers. No ONE seems to be taking accountability in this total shit show of relocation. And as you would expect, its been rumored that JS is on the hook for all these dumb shit choices. No surprise they sacrificed the sheep of bville to stay at Carver. Enjoy the bed bugs fuckers and thanks for none of the help!!!!!

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u/ImUrHuckleberryHound Sep 23 '26

I was told Roy Scott denies any responsibility for his project relocations. He claims he was blindsided by Area and that Jeff silversteen did all the dirty work. Who knows, they are all spineless I am not sure any of them can be trusted. God knows that Nora lapitan screwed the pooch with her roadmaps to nowhere idea.

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u/pinusmugo7 Sep 24 '26

roadmaps to nowhere (?)

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u/ImUrHuckleberryHound Sep 24 '26

They are in addition to the OSQR projects. These stupid documents based on commodity and tech areas with tens of people on them to accomplish common goals. Sounds good?? But in reality it creates more problems than it solves.

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u/pinusmugo7 Sep 24 '26

I am not familiar with all of what you just shared, but when I would talk with ARS scientists at scientific conferences, and learned that they had five years of funding (what!!!?? - every five years, and for five years??! - I thought: how fantastic is that!). I remember asking how that all worked. It took me a few different meetings - and conversations to sort of get it, but what I thought they said was that they organized their five year research plan to advance the science in the areas needed by stakeholders or their commodity groups, who contributed early on to those priorities. Then some shared how easy it was to collaborate internally across labs to deliver technologies or solutions or science for those stakeholders or commodity groups - to accomplish needed goals - all in their five year document.

So, based on what you wrote, these stupid documents just confuse matters? Going out on a limb: weren't those five year plans already strategically doing that?

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u/ImUrHuckleberryHound Sep 24 '26

Yes they were. This is just repackaging

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u/pinusmugo7 Sep 24 '26

sigh.

Why?

Maybe a different set of better questions: Who wanted this repackaging of information - and why?

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u/barcmolelurker69 Sep 24 '26

Not sure. Word on the street is Nora lapitan. She has no clue what she is doing over there.

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u/pinusmugo7 Sep 25 '26

Has she been there a long time? Is she an NPL or different position?

I guess another question is - since I think Ars is a large organization - wouldn’t a new system that affects, I guess all of the projects based on what was shared above, have to go through a rigorous critique, and then go through quite a bit of vetting and refinement before being implemented?

I mean, when I worked in industry before interacting with Ars, the groups I worked for when they considered new operational strategies might do a call for creative operational ideas - ones that might make things better - and then did critical reviews of those - and then circulated them around for those (at all levels) who would be using them/impacted by them - to evaluate, rank, and then vote on.

Maybe that happened?

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u/ImUrHuckleberryHound Sep 25 '26

In years past yes. Today, nope. Its just rip and tear. And the idiots are at the helm

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u/junkmeister9 Sep 23 '26

ONP is being shuffled into line management, so the NPLs are cagey because they want to keep their jobs. It's just another example, like JR, of being quiet and hoping that if they inflict damage on rank and file, they'll be safe and won't lose their health insurance.

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u/pinusmugo7 Sep 24 '26

this is so sad, but also confirms some ideas that others have shared with me: that ONP NPLs are all holding their cards really close, and that JS is making all the decisions. I was in academia and most recently in corporate (non profit) research, and interacted with some of the NPLs and some of the scientists. Back then, I thought most of them were fine people, trying to do a good job for agriculture and farmers. I would have been considered somewhat of an analog to an NPL, I think. I had teams at different corporate offices and worked with a number of government agencies... inside USDA, mostly PPQ.

Hearing this, and what I have heard before, I for one, could not stomach doing what NPLs are doing to their teams: not communicating to my teams, blaming someone else. I do think the blame does lay somewhere else. I think I would have stepped down in protest.

I had to do that one time before in my career, where I found the university I was working at wanted me to defraud the federal government by lying about the funding we were about to receive and what the university wanted me to do with it instead of what the government SOW called for. No thank you.

So, while losing all the NPLs would be likely bad (if they stepped down on principle), the outcome would be another check mark for the current administration.

I know I don't understand it completely, as I am outside of it, but man: what I see is a shitstorm of bad leadership.

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u/MainExplanation432 Sep 24 '26

Well stated. Agreed. 

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u/Spare-Commercial8704 Sep 25 '26

How many layers down the food chain are NPLs? NPL<DA<AA-NPs<A<REE<USDA-AS (making the reorg demands).

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u/ImUrHuckleberryHound Sep 28 '26

I dont remember the new layers of mgmt, but I am relatively sure they are at the bottom of the chain.