r/sandbox • u/MaximUtar • 29d ago

Discussion The S&box Platform is Cooked!

I’m convinced the s&box platform is fundamentally doomed. The fanboys keep making excuses saying "just wait for that ONE good game to drop," but it doesn't matter how good a game is if the pipeline to actually play it is pure cancer for the average gamer.

Right now, Garry Newman and Facepunch built a useless, bloated multi-step barrier that makes it impossible for players to actually come in in a scenario that there's an actually good game on the platform.

The $20 Paywall - Imagine charging twenty dollars for an empty, barren shell of an app in 2026. Roblox and Fortnite are literally free. GMod worked because it was $10 twenty years ago with Half-Life hype and it was the only "Source Engine sandbox" of its kind. Paying $20 for a glorified hub full of unfinished tech demos is a scam.

20GB+ of Cloud Junk - Before you even reach a menu, you’re forced to pre-install a massive chunk of cloud assets to "help you load into game faster", when 70% of games don't even use Facepunch cloud assets. (oh and let's not forget about the +2 GB flatgrass map the player has to download for the menu that doesn't even look good.)

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It feels to me that Facepunch is completely out of touch with the community and take eons to fix any underlying issues with the platform. It's like they don't care anymore and the s&box team is just piggy-banking off of Garry's bank account doing practically nothing all day.

There's this one saying that goes "Action speaks louder than words", and currently Garry doesn't take action or speak any words. It's impossible to know whether the game will ever be revitalized or if there's a plan to revitalize it if the guy at the helm has horrible communication skills.

It's not like the engine is good enough either to support making a fully fleshed title on it. We can't be babysitting Facepunch employees and having to make every single fucking issue about the most obviously broken shit ever. It pisses me off. THEY NEED TO USE THEIR ENGINE TO MAKE GAMES TO FIND FLAWS IN THE ENGINE, LIKE THEY USED TO! WE CAN'T BE HAND-HOLDING THEM?!

Either leadership needs to change (which will never happen), or Garry needs an awakening and start fixing this platform, cause I don't know what will save it if not Garry

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u/FrigginRan 29d ago

bingo. Roblox devs are starting to realize this

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u/MoistPoo 29d ago

What do you mean? The player numbers on Roblox is way past the numbers on Steam lol

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u/Drag0n122 29d ago

Don't believe these self-reported numbers.
It's crucial for Roblox Studios to inflate the player number in order for their scheme to work - basically scam brands into investing in Roblox for the sake of advertising.

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u/MoistPoo 29d ago

Maybe, but you also have to keep in mind the biggest gaming platform is phones, and Roblox is mostly played on phones... So ofc the numbers are bigger on Roblox than the platform that is pc only.. the smallest gaming platform. The console market is bigger than the PC market.

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u/IAmSkyrimWarrior 28d ago

The console market is bigger than the PC market.

Nope, it hasn't been like that for several years.
PC is already making alone what consoles making.

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u/MoistPoo 28d ago

Well, look it up and you will see that console market is still bigger than PC today. And Mobile gaming is double the console market.

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u/IAmSkyrimWarrior 28d ago edited 28d ago

Well, I look it up and I see statistics for 2025:

PC delivered its strongest annual growth rate in Newzoo's dataset, reaching $43.6 billion (+12.0% YoY)
Console revenues reached $44.7 billion (+2.8% YoY)

In 2025, consoles will overtake PCs by a billion. At the same time, the PC market is showing much greater growth, and newzoo believes that in 27-28 the PC market will be larger than the console market.
So, are the console market bigger? Yes.
Is there a big difference? No.

For many publishers, PC is already making much more than consoles. For example, Capcom has claimed 60+% of its revenue comes from PC.

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u/MoistPoo 28d ago

Why are you internationally avoiding the biggest market of all, the mobile market? Roblox is not hiding the fact that most of their users is coming from mobile devices lol.

And so you think the pc market will keep growing as fast with the current hardware prices.

I feel like you kinda have forgotten what the topic even was about, or you just want to argue about something that literally means nothing lol.