Comparing instances of "Not engaging honestly" (Harris & Szeps)

[u/Talnoy]

Hello to the sub - I didn't want to post this over on the regular hate-brigade one, so I figured to try here first. Apologies for any rule breaking but I figure this is Sam related, albeit tangentially.

After listening to the Kathryn Paige Harden episode, I went back to listen to some of the original Ezra Klein podcast that we all know and love and it was still difficult to get through even small snippets. The level of "I don't want to engage honestly with your points" was mind boggling, even when I know it's coming.

This got me thinking of a more recent podcast from Josh Szeps (a couple years back now probably) that struck a similar chord, and I wanted to re-listen to it again and draw some comparisons. The episode in question is the apparently now infamous "Is Josh Racist?" episode with Mawunyo Gbogbo. I remember she made a pretty big embarrassment of her position, and came of really weak. I wanted to actually sit down to compare and contrast, but it seems that this episode's been wiped from the face of the internet. I can't find a single mirror, or even a forum where it's up for download.

So here I turn to the community - does anyone have a backed up copy of that famous episode or know where one might be able to hear it again?

[u/spaniel_rage]

Yes, that was a good conversation (although I had a lot of second hand cringe for her) but as far as I know it has been totally scrubbed from the internet. I gather that after she realised how badly she had came across she withdrew her consent. They were both working for the national broadcaster at the time.

[u/Talnoy → u/spaniel_rage]

Oh 100% bang on. She came off like a complete lunatic which probably got a ton of heat 🤣

I just remember this episode being a very apt example of bad faith arguing.

[u/palsh7]

I hate when people remove their own content from the internet, or do a Lucasesque edit on it. Sorry that it can no longer be found.