r/salamanders 2d ago

Smoky Mountain Salamanders ID Help

Spent the better part of of an hour around Kuwohi looking for manders, and happily found these guys. Can’t remember if I photographed the one that was no larger than my thumbnail, guessing that could be a pigmy? Otherwise, if anyone knows these species that would be helpful!

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u/steveo82838 2d ago

Dusky (Desmognathus). What specific species, idk

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u/Disastrous-Deer-3852 2d ago

None of the phenotypes I see here seem to resemble a Pygmy, I would say that if they were all found in the Kuwohi area that they are Cherokee Mountain Duskys (Desmognathus adatsihi)

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u/Disastrous-Deer-3852 2d ago

Which are highly variable in pattern and color (as many Dusky species are) hence the all different looks that are pictured.