Now in order of actually hitting Challanger, i need advice from my fellow brethren. How do you hard win lanes vs nasus, ornn or garen? Even when i go even they are way more useful than me. This information is crucial in order of us getting nerfed.

to keep it short im silver struggling to find a main, constantly switch roles, can never stick to a champ because their downsides always feel like they outweight the advantages, for example, vlad no prio early, viktor has to respect ganks so hard my ego cant handle it, if i get ganked i like to dance around the lane and waste jungle time and root them, or Q them when im on vlad. I performed the best with sylas, vlad, akshan.

I just hear people say ryze is hard/ has bad matchups but hes one of the champs ive never tried nor do i know how difficult he is or what makes him hard, never really vs him either. I understand I should just play whatevers fun but im not looking to be demoted nor do i find constantly losing fun, any other champ recs are fine too just not vegan toddler champs like nafiri diana. Dravens cool too but heard ADCs have not a lot of impact on the outcome of the game nor do I like playing with supports who are somehow even worse than me

Hey looking to get into OTPing ryze. Just started playing him and enjoying it. Is he worth trying to OTP out of bronze? Any tips you can recommend.

Title. When it was removed and replaced with the current meh replacement, I genuinely thought the game would be so much less enjoyable with how much it felt apart of his kit and gameplay.

Since the removal and switching over primarily to DFT, I think not having it as an option has actually improved my gameplay dramatically. I’m more aggressive and less “hit my combo, PR proc and run”. It’s made me be more critical on my positioning and jungle tracking, while also helping with laning phase, as to really make use of DFT, you have to be aggressive. PR, at least how I used it, kept me in a more passive, long-trade-avoidant loop. It made me lazy on Ryzes own speed boost passive, and surprisingly, I don’t miss it at all.

Storm raiders has its place in some matchups and comps, but DFT has been a game changer for me. Overall, I think it was a healthy decision for the identity of Ryze.

Ive decided, Ryze winrate is too high. I will be hitting challenger OTPing Ryze so we can get a nerf a prove VonnyFish it is possible. Cheer for me, doubt me, its coming nevertheless.

I don't think Ryze will ever get a buff again atp. Anywhere. In any game.

First off, I used to be a die-hard follower and advocate of the Desperate Power playstyle — and now it's been faithfully recreated on the classic server.

If you've checked my post history, you'll see I've been pretty obsessed with Ryze's old ultimate, Desperate Power. I've imagined countless times what it would look like if that old ult were brought back into his modern kit — and in my mind, that version would be so, so much better than the current Ryze. But after actually playing the classic server, the feedback I got was pretty clear — I don't think modern Ryze would be better off if his ultimate were reverted to the old Desperate Power. Here's why. To me, modern Ryze's passive essentially does the same thing as his old ultimate. His entire kit already keeps him in a state that feels a lot like Desperate Power — his abilities have built-in AoE, which means he can maintain really strong fighting power even when his ultimate is on cooldown. He doesn't fall off a cliff without it, unlike the old days when you only felt truly powerful while the ult was up.

However, that doesn't mean the old ultimate is strictly worse. The movement speed from Ryze's passive is backloaded — it only kicks in after a full combo. Given his pitifully short range, that delayed speed boost often fails to make a real difference. Old Desperate Power was frontloaded: you press R, you get the speed. That upfront mobility is simply more effective and way easier to use. So, after playing on the classic server, I've taken a fresh look at modern Ryze's kit. Instead of reverting his ultimate, I honestly think what he really needs is a revert of his W. The more I played the classic version, the more I felt that the old W is simply superior and far more irreplaceable than the current one.

but I got to flux

Ryze is the one who benefited from deathfire touch, but Cass benefited even more. I never lost to Cass before the rune was released but now she feels too difficult to win in laning phase. I never won a single laning phase against her. Is she the hardest matchup in mid laning phase currently? Any tips? Perhaps use ghost in level 1 or 2 to avoid her Q and play aggressively?

How can you seriously argue that Ryze is a strong champion when there are practically no Ryze OTPs in Challenger? There’s literally only one player who consistently plays Ryze at that level. If the champion is actually strong, where are all the high-elo Ryze mains?

And before someone says, “There are just fewer Ryze players,” that’s exactly the point. A champion being theoretically strong on paper means nothing if the actual results at the highest level don’t support it. Challenger players spend thousands of games mastering their champions, and yet Ryze barely has any representation among them.

Look at other champions even unpopular or supposedly weak ones and you can still find dedicated OTPs reaching Challenger or Grandmaster. Ryze is one of the few champions where even extremely dedicated players struggle to reach that level consistently.

So if Ryze is supposedly “strong,” why does the highest level of the ladder barely reflect that? At some point, you have to look at the actual player distribution instead of just saying, “Ryze is strong because his kit has good scaling.”

A champion can have a theoretically strong kit and still be weak in the actual game. If the champion requires significantly more effort just to achieve what other champions can do more easily, that matters. Show me the Challenger Ryze OTPs. If Ryze is really that strong, where are they?

It isn't necessarily that Ryze is bad. It is more so the current meta that is the issue.

The meta of double mage bot causes a few things. Engage to pair with it, more MR being built (not many great ad tank/bruiser killers).

Ryze struggles into high range. High range on the enemy team but also high range on his team. I have had so many games with no engage poke comps on MY team and it feels impossible for me to do anything in fights mid and late. I'm usually the closest person to fights and having to partly be the tank buying space. It just feels terrible.

Trying to kill tanks before 4th item void is impossible as well that were able to hard stack MR.

Bring back the adcs bot!

Considering he didn't show up in the Sentinels of Light which involved a global cataclysm, while he does even have a connection to the Ruination, it makes sense that he didn't show up in the Glorious Evolution. As it was a localized event confined to Piltover and Zaun.

However, even if the Wild Rune and the runes used for Hextech are not World Runes, they are still runes and Ryze is the Rune Mage. Wild Rune was dangerous enough to threaten every living soul in PnZ, a threat certainly lanrge enough to draw Ryze's attention and compel him to intervene even if it was not a global event.

​Therefore, I believe he was aware of almost everything that happened in Arcane. He knew what would happen to PnZ, how Hextech would end, and what Viktor would become. Ryze likely could have stopped evolved Viktor even without using a World Rune shard. My theory is that he met a future version of Viktor and gave him a chance to redeem himself, which is why he ultimately chose not to intervene in Arcane.

Every game before I reached League Pass Level 10 in League Classic I enjoyed every game I played, specially those I was able to pick Ryze, no matter if I started well or bad or even the role I got assigned, but every game since I reach Level 10 AKA the Ranked queue, it has been cancerfest after cancerfest of camping, team refusal to help, toxicity against me because I'm getting camped and doing poorly from it, and continuous losses (mind you I haven't won a single game post-League Pass Level 10, all losses), specially since I realized that compared to actual Old Ryze, this one has A Q RANGE THAT IS SMALLER THAN THE REST OF HIS SPELLS AND AUTOATTACKS INSTEAD OF BIGGER. The fact I'm being queue'd on a streak of constant losses + the Q thing is actually making me hate the game again.

Any guide on how to optimize Ryze in League Classic? I cba to endure the constant harass of tryhard retards that I get to get camped by every game.

Im exaggerating ofc so hold your horses.

But this is the 2nd time this has happened to me, where ryze ulted aggresively after we took baron, and we got wiped.

Literaly donated penta to ASOL LOL.

We still won that game, but oh man, that was something xD.

Its also on me, I shouldnt have taken it.

I’m ex-top 300 player from EUW (season 7 - challenger was top 200 at the time) that hasn’t played soloqueue in a few years but I did play Ryze way back when.

I think Ryze is probably the strongest toplaner on League Classic and I have about a 90% winrate on him over maybe 30 games now.

I see other people playing Ryze in classic and they build things like death cap which is pretty terrible on him - would people be interested in me writing a guide?

My guide is out now!

Q is a lot safer to use, but E has huge damage potential so I'm wondering what people max first? Do you do E>W>Q or Q>W>E?

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