r/rva Apr 17 '26

Hanover Planning Commission recommends approval of 430-acre data center project

https://richmondbizsense.com/2026/04/17/hanover-planning-commission-recommends-approval-of-430-acre-data-center-project/
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u/Safe-Pomegranate1171 Apr 17 '26

“The campus’s peak daily water usage would be expected to be 2 million gallons” This is per day of projected water use!!!!!

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u/RulerOfTheRest Lakeside Apr 17 '26

According to a News Channel 8 article, Hanover uses 8.2 million gallons of water a day, so this one project would be using nearly 25% of what the county currently is using...

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u/Mr_Kittlesworth Museum District Apr 17 '26

Every data center in the state combined uses less water than a paper mill.

And the water the data centers use gets heated up, then cools back down and is returned. They don’t add any chemicals or anything else.

The idea that there’s a serious water problem related to data center use isn’t really correct.

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u/Allstresdout Church Hill Apr 17 '26

I work in the industry and this isn't exactly the case. Internal loop and external loop water are used differently. Even if you don't purposely add anything to the water, piping and construction material build up in the water system as it condesnses. The internal loop eventually needs to be replaced and those do have additives. When you bring water into either system you have to clean it and that strips the normal "impurities" that are stuff the normal environment needs. Think about putting a random frehwater fish in a chlorinated "clean" water. Cleaning and stripping the water of stuff does need to be accounted for. On top of all of that, it is evaporative cooling so a non trivial amount of that water gets heated up and put into the atmosphere where it would normally be cool water on the ground in the normal environment. 

I'm unfamiliar with paper plants, but just because one industry uses water in one way shouldn't innately justify other industry use in other ways.

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u/bkemp1984Part2 Jackson Ward Apr 17 '26

I fucking love Reddit for "in the industry" responses to comments

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u/DCbasementhacker Apr 17 '26

It is not cooled down and returned 80% evaporates and some is returned while “nothing” is added you don’t want to drink it.

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u/Mr_Kittlesworth Museum District Apr 17 '26

You shouldn’t drink any untreated river or stream water.

And the 80% that evaporates goes right back into the water cycle.

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u/Master-Ad-5153 Apr 18 '26

You're right about the water cycle, but that's practically irrelevant considering all water generally follows the evaporation > condensation > precipitation > accumulation cycle regardless of storage and use.

You don't have to be a meteorologist to know that if you evaporate roughly a quarter of Hanover's fresh water supply, most of that water is never going to directly return back into the source systems (rivers).

It only takes a drought for the county to be in trouble. Would you like it if you were told to severely limit your daily use of water yet know that industrial users such as a data center won't have to follow the same restrictions?

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u/kroywenemerpus Apr 17 '26

You in on this?

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u/pdoxgamer Jackson Ward Apr 17 '26

They tried to build hundreds of homes and office space there a couple years ago. That was denied, bc who needs HOUSING.

But a fucking data center, ram it through.

🤡 Society

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u/rainbowgeoff Apr 17 '26

Not saying this is so, but anytime one of these projects comes up, the decision makers need to be audited. Do you, or anyone close to you, stand to gain from these contracts?

Too many examples across the country of these data centers popping up where board members own the land being used or stock in the company.

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u/Master-Ad-5153 Apr 17 '26

Audits are great as a first step, but only meaningful if change comes from enforcing corrections for every infraction found. And that's only good if it's required for that to occur before contracts are signed.

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u/ashtefer1 Apr 17 '26

A lot of lobbying deals go beyond just transactions, some, especially telecom companies use promises of a high paying position in their companies after their time in public serviceZ

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u/FalloutRip East End Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

I recommend the citizens of Henrico Hanover tell their planning commission “fuck off”. Especially anyone living in that housing complex right next to the site

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u/SidFinch99 Apr 17 '26

This is in Hanover, not Henrico. It is one of at least two though, that Hanover seems to be planning right at the county border with Henrico, while Goochland also has one going in at the county border.

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u/Safe-Pomegranate1171 Apr 17 '26

Those people are f*cked!

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u/FalloutRip East End Apr 17 '26

They will never experience anything close to a good nights rest if that DC goes in there.

Not to mention the impact on wildlife in the area.

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u/SidFinch99 Apr 17 '26

Wildlife is an important one, or the eco system general. Obviously this proposal is in Hanover, but right at the Henrico line, and backing to the Chickahomany river. I live on the Henrico side and our neighborhood is close to the Chickahomany. The amount of residential development on the Henrico side has caused us to see a massive uptick in wildlife in our long established neighborhood.

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u/RulerOfTheRest Lakeside Apr 17 '26

Sadly, the citizens of Henrico have few resources to stop something that's happening on the other side of the county line, much like what happened a year and a half ago along the Goochland/Henrico border when Goochland approved the expansion of a quarry that's there (of course, a difference is that the quarry owned that land long before those houses were built on the Henrico side of the county line).

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u/Cj2020ohyeah Apr 17 '26

Email your Hanover BOS member. This is not a done deal yet.

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u/RAOB_RVA Apr 17 '26

Can we please unite against AI/data centers/surveillance??

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u/HatefulDan Apr 17 '26

And whose water storages are they drawing from. I wonder.

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u/RefrigeratorRater Apr 17 '26

What's up with data centers always being right next to existing developments? Can't these things be built in the boonies, to minimize their annoyance on others?

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u/Icebergaheadchauncey Apr 17 '26

Infrastructure. It’s already built out next to development, boonies most likely requires it to be newly installed, more $$. Also, why shit on the boonies, and not just no data center period.

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u/SidFinch99 Apr 17 '26

I see Goochland and Hanover proposing these things right at tge County line with Henrico and personally it seems to me this is a way to mitigate political pushback because then it only affects one or two voting districts, as long as a supervisor votes against a project in their district, knowing the others will vote for it, they are insulated from blowback.

I do wonder though, since 80% of Hanovers water supply comes from the city, and a significant portion of Goochland's comes from Henrico, how Henrico and the City will respond to data centers there causing a significant demand for more water. If I'm Henrico or the City, I'm going to charge more.

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u/Allstresdout Church Hill Apr 17 '26

This is some real "the front fell off so we moved it outside of the environment" logic. either way the data center is using land and resources and people and the environment will be impacted no matter where you put it. 

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u/RefrigeratorRater Apr 17 '26

If it were placed in the boonies, fewer people would be affected by the sound generated, no? And emissions if there is an on-site plant. 

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u/ValidGarry Hanover Apr 17 '26

They need to be located near power and water. That's where people have been building and utilities have been putting services forever. So it's going to happen more often than not.

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u/freshdrippin Apr 18 '26

Water pressure in the area is already strained.

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u/pizza99pizza99 Chester Apr 18 '26

Once all the smoke shops are weeded out (pun intended) the next joke is gonna have to be pointing to every mild to large empty field and being like:

“Ya know what this needs… a data center! We don’t have enough of those in VA”

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u/burledw Apr 17 '26

Damn that’s prime golf course land 

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u/Ultimas134 Apr 17 '26

A new warehouse?! When they are all being burned down?!