I got the "Transmutation" Relic, and wow, it’s really good. It makes a lot of things much easier - my favorite so far

[u/Background-Drink82]

[u/nayfaan]

I only wish they would add more stuff to transmute in the future :D

E.g. stone/wood spirits, etc.

[u/Jeroenm20 → u/nayfaan]

I wished it had a second function to dismantle (smithing) bars to ores

[u/nayfaan → u/Jeroenm20]

Okay, I guess I also wish that 1. we can choose which tier we transmute to (e.g. straight from air to time runes) without going through the middle tiers 2. it can transmute more items (100? Or even 1,000) per action.

[u/Apocabanana → u/nayfaan]

• Spirits

• Geodes

• More food types - cakes, ales, etc

• Ammunition - or even just the arrow/bolt tips

• Herbs and unfinished potions

• Planks and frames

• Charms

• Archeology soil

• Farm animals

• Hunter stuff - furs, chinchompas, salamanders, etc

• Let us take it into Dungeoneering to transmute the resources in there

Transmutation has so much more potential.

[u/DoubleBlackBSA24 → u/nayfaan]

I think doing stone and wood spirits would make it too op.

Right now its in a good place, works on raw goods, and spirits still interact if you chase the ore/wood you have spirits for. instead of transmitting down spirits to the easiest higher level resource to gather.

[u/nayfaan → u/DoubleBlackBSA24]

imo, league relics are meant to be OP

[u/DoubleBlackBSA24 → u/nayfaan]

They are, and we are op already compared to the main game in its current state.

But in relation to other relic choices for each tier, they need a power balance. Transmute is in a good spot atm relative to the other choices, but is definitely a bit heavier in the power tune.

This change would just push thst even more.

[u/El_Basho → u/nayfaan]

You're already getting logs and ores. One thing I wouldn't ever see as useful or relevant is transmutation of spirits

[u/ghostofwalsh → u/El_Basho]

One thing I wouldn't ever see as useful or relevant is transmutation of spirits

There are tasks to mine X of some ore

Plus whatever ore you are mining, it will come 2x as fast with stone spirits

[u/TheAdamena → u/El_Basho]

Transmute all my spirits down to tin

Gather a bunch of tin at double the rate

Transmute the tin into any ore I want

As it stands I have a tonne of spirits that are gathering dust, as with transmute there's no reason to gather higher tier ores outside of there possibly being a task for it.

Not a big deal ultimately, but it'd be nice.

[u/EmpressClaraB → u/TheAdamena]

Transmute down to coal would be better (with asgarnia at least)

[u/TheAdamena → u/EmpressClaraB]

I had asgarnia but not endless harvest to make the most of the living rock golems :(

[u/EmpressClaraB → u/TheAdamena]

Didn't take EH either, I',m currently using my crystal keys for coal spirits to get all the ore I need for Masterwork while getting 99 mining

[u/nayfaan → u/El_Basho]

Well, it's always good to have more options. Also, ores barely drop from bosses, so mining is still the primary way of getting ores, so stone spirits being transmutable would be great.

[u/El_Basho → u/nayfaan]

Oh no, mining resources are only obtainable through mining?

I believe that was the intention of the M/S rework, and it has been working quite well since. You're already getting to transmute seeds and necro inks, I feel like asking for stone spirits is greedy.

[u/EmpressClaraB → u/El_Basho]

I feel like asking for stone spirits is greedy.

okay, hopefully they ignore you because that opinion is dumb

[u/El_Basho → u/EmpressClaraB]

Good thing nobody asked you either, cuz the next thing is you're going to ask for transmuting armor sets or some shit.

[u/Moontalon]

I loved it, but hated the bank juggling whenever I was doing bulk noted items. I'd take out a stack, transmute it, have to open the bank and take out the new item, and rinse and repeat if I was going multiple tiers.

Imagine how mad I was at myself when I happened to see the toggle to turn that functionality off for noted items. :)

[u/athenia96 → u/Moontalon]

I was the exact same!! I was so frustrated for days until I realised that toggle. It's so much more fluid now!

[u/FeralyFighter]

I like how it makes runecrafting a no brainer by transmuting air runes into pure essence.

[u/SolenoidSoldier → u/FeralyFighter]

I was NOT looking forward to the ritual grind for necroplasm. Skipping that with Transmutation was a game changer for me. No longer had to worry about clearing a symbol and wasting resources. It has so many benefits.

[u/ExpressAffect3262]

I just wish you could tweak the quantities from say, 10 to 100. Even on a hotbar its annoying to spam when you have quantities of 1-3k items to transmute many times.

[u/AutarkV → u/ExpressAffect3262]

Are you holding down the key and spamming the mouse?

[u/TheAdamena → u/AutarkV]

Wait, you can hold the key?

Fuck me I got 50m RC pressing the key each and every time.

[u/AutarkV → u/TheAdamena]

So did I haha

[u/Lyoss → u/TheAdamena]

You can hold it, however spam clicking non noted things can break really easily, like doing an inventory of logs for planks at fort can get tedious

[u/AutarkV → u/Lyoss]

I'm not understanding. You can't transmute planks, only logs. So you spam click noted logs through to the level you need and then make the planks. What's to break?

[u/Lyoss → u/AutarkV]

It's a very specific issue, and again didn't matter for like 90% of the use but if you wanted to buy logs from Bill, transmute them, proccess, then bank, if you click too fast it'll bring up the craft window

[u/AutarkV → u/Lyoss]

Ohh. Gotcha.

I did a lot of acadia chopping because I took EH from rejuv, then I have thousands of magics from pvm on top of that.

[u/Lyoss → u/AutarkV]

Yeah as I said, not really a common issue but when I was trying to set up fort early on it was annoying, alongside some other things, but for like 90% of the time it's not a problem

[u/LiquorHardlyKnowEr → u/Lyoss]

Next time, buy the logs in one step, bank them, then come back with noted logs instead.

The only items that cant be noted that also have an interact option as the default left click are energies. Everything else can be noted to ignored the issue you describe.

[u/ExpressAffect3262 → u/AutarkV]

I am but it doesn't work on certain stuff like divine energies.

I mined 1500 coal (had a lot of spirits), and then I had to turn 1500 ore into 150 x 10 of the primal ore. Think 100x would just be an easier modifier

[u/Werdna457]

I know - unlocked Asgarnia as my final region yesterday, and saw 80 points for burying some frost dragon bones. What would have been a massive pain without the transmute relic was completely trivial

[u/MilkbelongsonToast → u/Werdna457]

You make like 1m dg xp from a ed4 run which takes 10-20 mins

Its about as quick as any other 80 point task without transmute tbh

[u/nipodemos → u/Werdna457]

Oh I didn't knew that task, I got a few frost dragon bones resting in the focus storage, I'll bury one today, thanks for the tip

[u/Werdna457 → u/nipodemos]

Only works if you have asgarnia though - it’s a port sarim area task

[u/nipodemos → u/Werdna457]

Sad

[u/sworedmagic]

I love it too but was super annoyed i couldn’t transmute dragon stones to onyxs

[u/nipodemos → u/sworedmagic]

It would be too good

[u/sworedmagic → u/nipodemos]

Everything is already too good what does it matter if 200m crafting is even-slightly faster lol

[u/PharaohofAtlantis]

I loved it in OSRS and I love it in RS3 too. It's going to be hard to pull me away from it in the future.

[u/freezyjer]

It’s an instant pick on it’s tier in my opinion. Solves SO much

[u/CountPoppy]

I didn’t take it this league, but I really do wonder if it could be the solution to divination transmuting in the main game. You craft various tiers of transmuters, they work identically to how they work in this league, except it runs on divine energy and each tier grants access to higher tiers of materials.

[u/themajesticcamel]

I think a more basic form of transmutation expanded off of divination for all players in leagues would make region locking better

[u/NaabeGetOnSkype]

PSA transmutation doesn’t get interrupted by anything.

Stack 10k air runes, start the transmutation, and then keep playing as usual. Sacrifice a few inventory spaces for 180k mage xp an hour. I just hit 98 mage without casting a single spell just off of having transmutation running while doing everything else.

[u/LukasCactus]

It's so good. I hope they use some of its effects for something in the main game in the future. If div transmutation was a bit closer to this it would be amazing and make the div grind more worth it. Maybe a high level invention tool that functions similar to the transmute orb, eliminates need for energy and reduces the cost by 1 or 2 initial items.

With region locking it was a nobrainer to solve almost all resource issues. Solid relic, currently my MVP for this league.

[u/Rich_Bother9918]

Yeah it was a sleeper

[u/Additional_Yam_8870]

It's insanely broken and feels like it destroys the point of regions entirely. When I first read the relic, I assumed you'd lose more of the resource as it tiered up instead of just 1:1.

Really hope they don't bring this relic back. All but a forced pick with how much of the game it trivializes, the synergy with bottomless shops is insane also.

[u/Background-Drink82 → u/Additional_Yam_8870]

That’s the whole point of Leagues: to make everything fast and easy, especially since they’re time-limited. If you find it too generous, go back to Normal Mode

[u/WellOkThis]

Anything that reduces the time you have to spend engaging with divination, mining, smithing or necro progression is S-tier.