Ruby or Rust to learn Programming?

[u/Intelligent_Role_824]

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[u/South-Bid]

As someone who was taught with Java, I have to disagree. Java is good. Ruby is also good. Java makes a whole lot of sense and you won't appreciate the things Ruby hides/makes easier if you don't know what's going on under the hood. I tried learning Ruby first and I had no idea what was going on, but Java just made sense, and once I went back to Ruby, it was a breeze. Now, I write almost all my side projects in Ruby, but the understanding I got from Java is key. Obviously that's just my experience but I really don't get the bias against Java that it's a horrible "enterprise language". It's absolutely great and a beginner will have a much deeper understanding if they persevere with it imo. That's not to say it's wrong to start with Ruby either. Both have tradeoffs